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when I was in the hospital and realized I have lots of free time I started to write down lots of topic.
One of it being this.... Symmetry in cues?

Does a cue have to have symmetry?
what is symmetry?

When I look at cues, which by the way is not that many, I always see the symmetry in them. from even points to the even spacing of points inlays and etc.

does this matter to you?
to me I think so but not as much as to the inlays or numbers but color.
color symmetry is what I like. and thats how I build now.

just a question ... does it matter to you or does everything have to be perfectly align?
 
Piercyexclusive said:
when I was in the hospital and realized I have lots of free time I started to write down lots of topic.
One of it being this.... Symmetry in cues?

Does a cue have to have symmetry?
what is symmetry?

When I look at cues, which by the way is not that many, I always see the symmetry in them. from even points to the even spacing of points inlays and etc.

does this matter to you?
to me I think so but not as much as to the inlays or numbers but color.
color symmetry is what I like. and thats how I build now.

just a question ... does it matter to you or does everything have to be perfectly align?
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Piercey, it's great to see you back posting and well!

I like symmetry in a cue. Now to what extent, that is debatable. If the points aren't exactly in line I don't find that as a deal breaker as it shows the uniqueness and custom work. Certainly IMO they should be as close as possible if that is the goal. Do you have any examples you think are non symetrical?
 
zy112 said:
Piercey, it's great to see you back posting and well!

I like symmetry in a cue. Now to what extent, that is debatable. If the points aren't exactly in line I don't find that as a deal breaker as it shows the uniqueness and custom work. Certainly IMO they should be as close as possible if that is the goal. Do you have any examples you think are non symetrical?
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my cues. have you seen them?
http://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?t=195028&page=2
the last two cues I posted
 
Wow, those are different, I like. If you don't mind, what's the average price tag on those?
 
youd have to call me and we can talk.... i try to get all in cash but from time to time I can do trade depending on what you want in a cue.
 
Piercyexclusive said:
youd have to call me and we can talk.... i try to get all in cash but from time to time I can do trade depending on what you want in a cue.
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Sounds good, when I get the cue I just bought payed off I'll call. Would be interested in maybe a plain jane with some of that crazy wood you have posted before.
 
zy112 said:
Sounds good, when I get the cue I just bought payed off I'll call. Would be interested in maybe a plain jane with some of that crazy wood you have posted before.
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you could call anytime to call it doesn't even matter if you are buying anything I like to shoot the bull with random people sometimes about anything I do. and also try to answer any questions you may have.
 
I'll tell you what's "symmetrical" in cues--and it's a symmetry I hate: Having a "little bit" above the handle (the fore-end) and a little bit below the handle (the butt sleeve) onto which cue makers like to put their little designs.

I think handles (and wraps, when used) should go all the way down to the butt cap (with perhaps one small, intervening design ring). There ARE many times, for example, when the cue actually gets GRIPPED in the butt sleeve area--so why shouldn't there be handle there?

I think the long, clean lines of a pool cue are needlessly destroyed by the "butt sleeve" area.
 
GetMeThere said:
I'll tell you what's "symmetrical" in cues--and it's a symmetry I hate: Having a "little bit" above the handle (the fore-end) and a little bit below the handle (the butt sleeve) onto which cue makers like to put their little designs.

I think handles (and wraps, when used) should go all the way down to the butt cap (with perhaps one small, intervening design ring). There ARE many times, for example, when the cue actually gets GRIPPED in the butt sleeve area--so why shouldn't there be handle there?

I think the long, clean lines of a pool cue are needlessly destroyed by the "butt sleeve" area.
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have you seen this cue on this link?
http://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?t=191792
second and third posting
 
Piercyexclusive said:
when I was in the hospital and realized I have lots of free time I started to write down lots of topic.
One of it being this.... Symmetry in cues?

Does a cue have to have symmetry?
what is symmetry?

When I look at cues, which by the way is not that many, I always see the symmetry in them. from even points to the even spacing of points inlays and etc.

does this matter to you?
to me I think so but not as much as to the inlays or numbers but color.
color symmetry is what I like. and thats how I build now.

just a question ... does it matter to you or does everything have to be perfectly align?
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Piercy,

Symmetry is just one part of design. It is not the only part. Asymmetry is just as important. So is progression. Arithmetic or geometric. So is proportion. So is scale. In fact, the important things in design can fill books. Many books.

All the great architects and artists of the past relied on all these things to achieve a great design. What we have all learned from the past is that it is the ability to bend or transform the tenets of the past that creates art.

Symmetry in cues is a habit. It is not the only answer. It appeals to the minds sense of order but it becomes boring. The true artist goes beyond what is perceived as normal and ordered and achieves what was thought of as the impossible.

Just keep doing what you are doing and follow what your heart and mind tell you to do. If it is the right thing you will know.

Bill Stroud
 
bstroud said:
Piercy,

Symmetry is just one part of design. It is not the only part. Asymmetry is just as important. So is progression. Arithmetic or geometric. So is proportion. So is scale. In fact, the important things in design can fill books. Many books.

All the great architects and artists of the past relied on all these things to achieve a great design. What we have all learned from the past is that it is the ability to bend or transform the tenets of the past that creates art.

Symmetry in cues is a habit. It is not the only answer. It appeals to the minds sense of order but it becomes boring. The true artist goes beyond what is perceived as normal and ordered and achieves what was thought of as the impossible.

Just keep doing what you are doing and follow what your heart and mind tell you to do. If it is the right thing you will know.

Bill Stroud
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Thanks coming from you means alot.
I cann't wait to get 100% back to normal and start working in the shop and do what I do and I cann't wait to show off my next completed to in about begging or mid november
 
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