T.o.I

8pack

8pack

They call me 2 county !
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Just received my copy.
I have questions but Im just going to let things alone.
Toi is just not going to be for every shot for me.(Not in this manner,just not for me)
I think you can apply toi to a lot shots in the game because it just makes since.Cj is very good at talking and getting his point across.

There,s one part in the dvd that had me scratching my head.
The 9 ball break with toi and after words running that rack.Was he actually trying to run that rack or just demonstrate Toi?Something didnt look rite in the running of that rack.:)


Anthony
 
hmmm, TOI, I think that somethings gets more clear if you read and interpret CJ´s intention in his posts.
My feeling and interpret is to favor the inside, deflection wise - not spin. This is hard to explain and need to be felt. I felt the feeling of greater CB control, straighter draw shots, tighter patterns etc. The amount of TOI will equalize the amount of spin from the cb/ob impact. If I want the outside spin I still go in to the shot the same and then pivot slightly. This is the part that is one of the big keys imo, it´s simplifies it. ctc or cte - the mindset that you have into the shot. I see the angle on the inside of the pocket and then I know that I will - even If I don´t put inside on it, will pocket the ob.
It helps you make up your mind sort of speak.
The angles will also be truer.
One easy way to find out the "create the angle vision" is to just shot a rather straight in shot into the side and aiming it in the inside and go down with TOI - you will see it right away imo. You have done it millions of times but not with the same mindset I would think, - you adjust to the squirt. Now you just have to apply it on all shots with that mindset. Squirt is there, go with it, not against it.
Doing it on "all" shots you will see more ways of getting position, getting more accurate on rebound angles imo. Easier to find when you are not in the "zone". It helps you determine the shot easier, less tough sort of speak.
CJ - I need some help here - gdamn this is hard to explain:rolleyes:.

Think about "mindset" into the shot, thinking wise,
not aiming, shooting etc, FEEL IT. A way to get the feel of the zone easier even when you are not in the zone. Better cb control imo.

Will take some time though and I´m still struggling with it sometimes when I want to go back to "old ways", however I feel this is a great way to play and I will stick with it. Now I´m incorporating my old ways to fit into TOI instead of the other way around.
If we talk about aiming I would say that "Perfect Aim" is a great thing to incorporate imo. The cb is the target and Perfect Aim place you on the right track in that department imo.

I´m looking forward to the bank vid coming out.

Regards

Chrippa
 
ENGLISH! said:
Anthony,

What did not look right? Was it the way he chose to get position?

Regards,
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Its not very appealing to say the least.;)
I actually learned something from the dvd,well maybe it just confirmed something for me.:)


Anthony
 
Chrippa said:
hmmm, TOI, I think that somethings gets more clear if you read and interpret CJ´s intention in his posts.
My feeling and interpret is to favor the inside, deflection wise - not spin. This is hard to explain and need to be felt. I felt the feeling of greater CB control, straighter draw shots, tighter patterns etc. The amount of TOI will equalize the amount of spin from the cb/ob impact. If I want the outside spin I still go in to the shot the same and then pivot slightly. This is the part that is one of the big keys imo, it´s simplifies it. ctc or cte - the mindset that you have into the shot. I see the angle on the inside of the pocket and then I know that I will - even If I don´t put inside on it, will pocket the ob.
It helps you make up your mind sort of speak.
The angles will also be truer.
One easy way to find out the "create the angle vision" is to just shot a rather straight in shot into the side and aiming it in the inside and go down with TOI - you will see it right away imo. You have done it millions of times but not with the same mindset I would think, - you adjust to the squirt. Now you just have to apply it on all shots with that mindset. Squirt is there, go with it, not against it.
Doing it on "all" shots you will see more ways of getting position, getting more accurate on rebound angles imo. Easier to find when you are not in the "zone". It helps you determine the shot easier, less tough sort of speak.
CJ - I need some help here - gdamn this is hard to explain:rolleyes:.

Think about "mindset" into the shot, thinking wise,
not aiming, shooting etc, FEEL IT. A way to get the feel of the zone easier even when you are not in the zone. Better cb control imo.

Will take some time though and I´m still struggling with it sometimes when I want to go back to "old ways", however I feel this is a great way to play and I will stick with it. Now I´m incorporating my old ways to fit into TOI instead of the other way around.
If we talk about aiming I would say that "Perfect Aim" is a great thing to incorporate imo. The cb is the target and Perfect Aim place you on the right track in that department imo.

I´m looking forward to the bank vid coming out.

Regards

Chrippa
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It would be nice to be able to shoot the cb at 2 different spots on the ob.(with toi)
For me not you or anyone else that is one tough task to take on and is not even acceptable.:smile:

I will just stay a banger and be happy for that.
Good luck to you and your game Sir.

Anthony
 
8pack said:
It would be nice to be able to shoot the cb at 2 different spots on the ob.(with toi)
For me not you or anyone else that is one tough task to take on and is not even acceptable.:smile:

I will just stay a banger and be happy for that.
Good luck to you and your game Sir.

Anthony
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Mmmm imaging that, shooting cb at 2 different spots.....:wink: Best of 2 worlds right:). I´m guessing you are a rather good shooter that makes a bit of a fun right? But still won´t try what I say:wink:. Who knows - you make like it if you try:wink:.

Just a banger, and I´m happy to be it:)

Chrippa
 
There will be some banks that many people have never seen done before, with the TOI..

Chrippa said:
hmmm, TOI, I think that somethings gets more clear if you read and interpret CJ´s intention in his posts.
My feeling and interpret is to favor the inside, deflection wise - not spin. This is hard to explain and need to be felt. I felt the feeling of greater CB control, straighter draw shots, tighter patterns etc. The amount of TOI will equalize the amount of spin from the cb/ob impact. If I want the outside spin I still go in to the shot the same and then pivot slightly. This is the part that is one of the big keys imo, it´s simplifies it. ctc or cte - the mindset that you have into the shot. I see the angle on the inside of the pocket and then I know that I will - even If I don´t put inside on it, will pocket the ob.
It helps you make up your mind sort of speak.
The angles will also be truer.
One easy way to find out the "create the angle vision" is to just shot a rather straight in shot into the side and aiming it in the inside and go down with TOI - you will see it right away imo. You have done it millions of times but not with the same mindset I would think, - you adjust to the squirt. Now you just have to apply it on all shots with that mindset. Squirt is there, go with it, not against it.
Doing it on "all" shots you will see more ways of getting position, getting more accurate on rebound angles imo. Easier to find when you are not in the "zone". It helps you determine the shot easier, less tough sort of speak.
CJ - I need some help here - gdamn this is hard to explain:rolleyes:.

Think about "mindset" into the shot, thinking wise,
not aiming, shooting etc, FEEL IT. A way to get the feel of the zone easier even when you are not in the zone. Better cb control imo.

Will take some time though and I´m still struggling with it sometimes when I want to go back to "old ways", however I feel this is a great way to play and I will stick with it. Now I´m incorporating my old ways to fit into TOI instead of the other way around.
If we talk about aiming I would say that "Perfect Aim" is a great thing to incorporate imo. The cb is the target and Perfect Aim place you on the right track in that department imo.

I´m looking forward to the bank vid coming out.

Regards

Chrippa
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This is correct, you can have the best, most awesome system in the galaxy and pool still come down to "Touch and Feel". It's just not as visual a game as we are led to believe. The player with the best eye sight doesn't necessarily have an advantage playing pool, the player with the best touch and feel does have an advantage. TOI improves touch and feel but you have to want to improve and have an open mind to a new concept or it's like tasting new food, you must have a "willing pallet".

The TOI Banking video will go into post production Thursday. It's going to end up being another 90 minute DVD, there's SO much to show, and we're determined to do the best demonstration and explanation possible at this time. There will be some banks that many people have never seen done before, with the TOI system they will be possible for anyone to make.

Enjoy Class, 'The Game is the Teacher'
 
Chrippa said:
Mmmm imaging that, shooting cb at 2 different spots.....:wink: Best of 2 worlds right:). I´m guessing you are a rather good shooter that makes a bit of a fun right? But still won´t try what I say:wink:. Who knows - you make like it if you try:wink:.

Just a banger, and I´m happy to be it:)

Chrippa
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Not making fun. Im all about ideals and I'm know stranger to deflection. I think we all just have a different understanding of things.
 
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ALIGN to two different spots on the object ball and make any shot on the table.

Chrippa said:
Mmmm imaging that, shooting cb at 2 different spots.....:wink: Best of 2 worlds right:). I´m guessing you are a rather good shooter that makes a bit of a fun right? But still won´t try what I say:wink:. Who knows - you make like it if you try:wink:.

Just a banger, and I´m happy to be it:)

Chrippa
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Yes, with TOI you can ALIGN to two different spots on the object ball and make any shot on the table. Alignment is more about body/eye positioning so you have have the same PERSPECTIVE of the shot every time.

I show this when I beat the 15 Ball Ghost and the One Pocket Ghost step by step......you can see these videos for free at www.cjwiley.com with several camera angles, we're working on the "Head Cam" right now, however, it's a more difficult task to produce properly.
 
CJ Wiley said:
Yes, with TOI you can ALIGN to two different spots on the object ball and make any shot on the table. Alignment is more about body/eye positioning so you have have the same PERSPECTIVE of the shot every time.

I show this when I beat the 15 Ball Ghost and the One Pocket Ghost step by step......you can see these videos for free at www.cjwiley.com with several camera angles, we're working on the "Head Cam" right now, however, it's a more difficult task to produce properly.
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All right "Head Cam." :D

A picture of what you are seeing is worth a thousand words.

Thanks CJ for giving it a go. :thumbup:

John
 
I'll share more of my understanding of the "game" of pocket billiards.

8pack said:
Not making fun. Im all about ideals and I'm know stranger to deflection. I think we all just have a different understanding of things.
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Yes, we do have a different understanding of things, I'll share more of my understanding of the "game" of pocket billiards.

The geometry of the pool table is commonly thought of in terms of a rectangle made up of two squares divided by diamonds that create a series of triangles that connect to the corners (pockets). There are other geometrical figures, however, the ones that connect the Game as a whole are the spheres of the 16 balls (4 squared).

The cue is a straight line and when it is connected to the center of the cue ball it creates a straight line, however, when it is moved parallel to one side (or the other) of the cue ball it starts to create a series of angles, the more you move to the Inside of the sphere (and strike the cue ball) the more angles are created. They connect to the diamonds, to the pockets and to each other. When we go into "the zone" these angles also connect to our own unconscious minds, and this is an experience like Déjà vu.

These angles align to the geometry of the table's angles to create every conceivable shot in the Game of Pool. This is how the Touch of Inside System works and it's even more obvious when you use this system to Bank every ball because then the angles are even more apparent. No longer are you trying to hit one "ball" into another "ball" {to hit a certain "contact point"} to try and make the "ball" in the pocket.

The Game becomes Creating Angles, and when you eliminate the pockets it's apparent that each shot is an angle formed by the contact of two spheres. Then the Game reveals it's true nature {when the player gets in "the zone"} that aligns somehow to our unconscious mind and geometrical figures have done this all the way back to the formation of the pyramids and certainly beyond.

I don't claim to know how these mysteries transpired, I'm just grateful to have been taught this incredible lesson by an instrument some consider just a game. For me pocket billiards is more than a "game"....yes indeed. 'The Game is the Teacher'
 
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