Take all of the weight out of your break cue

Speaking for the world? Wonder where you're from 😜
Dude, give it a rest...if I said the world was round you'd try to make an argument against that too..everyone except you and possibly some woke lgbtq+ people like a power break with cue ball control and no cut break shit with the cb flying around the table.

Deal with it.
 
Dude, give it a rest...if I said the world was round you'd try to make an argument against that too..everyone except you and possibly some woke lgbtq+ people like a power break with cue ball control and no cut break shit with the cb flying around the table.

Deal with it.
I hope you're ok :)

But, back on topic, light works for me. Lots of great insights shared in this thread! Thanks all.
 
No. the equation in play here is conservation of momentum. p=mv. so a cue with 30% more mass only needs 78% of the velocity to have equal momentum.
Right you are - I must have been thinking of E=MC^2. Still, mass plays a significant role and the optimum weight/speed combination is different for different players.

pj
chgo
 
No. the equation in play here is conservation of momentum. p=mv. so a cue with 30% more mass only needs 78% of the velocity to have equal momentum.
incorrect. momentum is a measurement of force over time. Kinetic energy is a capacity to do work (i.e. transfer energy into a rack). Kinetic energy is scalar and increases quadratically with speed, where a 10% speed increase results in a 21% increase in KE, as apposed to a linear increase with mass.
 
incorrect. momentum is a measurement of force over time. Kinetic energy is a capacity to do work (i.e. transfer energy into a rack). Kinetic energy is scalar and increases quadratically with speed, where a 10% speed increase results in a 21% increase in KE, as apposed to a linear increase with mass.
Sheeeeeeet....:-)
 
I'm fine, dont worry.
Glad to hear it. Let's make people smile, rather than frown. Makes the world a nicer place to live :)
Ans Archer used a 20 ounce break cue, certainly you should get him into an argument.
Have quite liked watching people argue with him last year, not sure I can be bothered.
P.s.whats your average break speed?
MR 14-16mph, WPA 20-22mph table depending (I found I took it down to around 16mph when the table was needing it), 8/10ball 16 -18mph is suitable, but I sure like giving it a bit more when I'm feeling good - these are the speeds that I seem to have success with, but not a hard and fast rule for me, and also granted I don't keep track, and this was from some experimenting about a year ago which I posted about previously.
 
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Glad to hear it. Let's make people smile, rather than frown. Makes the world a nicer place to live :)

Have quite liked watching people argue with him last year, not sure I can be bothered.

MR 14-16mph, WPA 20-22mph table depending I found I took it down to around 16mph when the table was needing it, 8/10ball 16 -18mph is suitable, but I sure like giving it a bit more when I'm feeling good - these are the speeds that I seem to have success with, but not a hard and fast rule for me, and also granted I don't keep track, and this was from some experimenting about a year ago which I posted about previously.
MR?WPR?
 
This thread made me check on my Mezz Kai break cue. Wow, never realized the butt weights 16oz! Took of the weight bolt (1.5oz) and now can't wait to put the lighter break cue to the test at the table, with some break speed analysis included. Now the cue weights 18.3oz approximately. Thank you for the reminder!
 
This thread made me check on my Mezz Kai break cue. Wow, never realized the butt weights 16oz! Took of the weight bolt (1.5oz) and now can't wait to put the lighter break cue to the test at the table, with some break speed analysis included. Now the cue weights 18.3oz approximately. Thank you for the reminder!
16oz with or without the bolt? Assume with? I will also measure the weight of the cue with Ignite G shaft attached. Both days I have meant to, but I have gotten side-tracked by actually playing. We can compare notes haha

I can say from a subjective feeling perspective, that I am having a better hit, but I would also be interested in a side by side analysis of the cue performance with and without weight. Thinking simple (as my small brain does), 5 attempts each at max power - Measuring speed. Then 5 attempts each trying to break as If I were in a game, recording the produced layouts. Hope I have enough time in the weekend to do that.
 
16oz with or without the bolt? Assume with? I will also measure the weight of the cue with Ignite G shaft attached. Both days I have meant to, but I have gotten side-tracked by actually playing. We can compare notes haha

I can say from a subjective feeling perspective, that I am having a better hit, but I would also be interested in a side by side analysis of the cue performance with and without weight. Thinking simple (as my small brain does), 5 attempts each at max power - Measuring speed. Then 5 attempts each trying to break as If I were in a game, recording the produced layouts. Hope I have enough time in the weekend to do that.
16oz with bolt, which sounds a lot to me. Now it's 14.5oz. Interested in hearing others' break cue weights.
 
Cue weight on a break cue doesn't really matter.

What matters is how fast you can accelerate the cue into the cueball.

You can swing a lighter cue faster than a heavy one....just as you can a lighter bat or golf club.

17.5 Oz is what I use.
Some folks can only swing the bat so fast. Gotta add a little so they get a bit more punch out of it. Not going to make em a world beater, but might just get balls moving around enuf for one to fall. That's all it takes. One.
 
We don't have them because we'd have to move them too fast to get decent break speeds.

pj
chgo

That's a very good question, I suspect it's based upon the average weight break cue that is sold. In addition, few people understand the advantages of light cue, so manufacturers go with the flow and build cues with removable weight bolts.
My brother had a bone disease since childhood, resulting in his left arm being 4" shorter than his right. He was forced to play left handed of course, and had trouble breaking with power as most of the muscle tissue was gone as well.
I got him a heavier snap stick so as to let it do some of the work his arm and shoulder could not. Once he learned how to control the heavier cue, his break improved immensely.
No longer a handicap for him that I took advantage of. Brotherly love, dontchaknow.🥰 Here's to you Mike!!
The best of us.🫂
 
Tbf, it's not impossible to break MR format at speed. Sure not max speed, but there are lots of great examples of players who can do this without 'sissy breaking shit'

Both Kaçi's, Big and middle KO, FSR etc

Squeezing the one in the side with another power to get back through the balls at speed. Spent a long time trying to emulate middle KO, as I think he's got a nice break. Lucky enough to chat in person about it. It's both satisfying and aesthetic when it's done right.

Not saying blasting the balls to smithereens isn't fun. Last time I really tried to go full tilt, was basically seeing who could get closest to 30mph with a couple friends for the first round of beers after we finished playing.
I usually make more balls w a cut break. That being said, I'm old school and there's just something immensely satisfying about clocking the head ball and sending that anemic bastard upstairs for a second or two towards a squat landing dead center of the runway.😉
How I decompress. My nerve pill.😂
 
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