Taking Pictures of Cues

ndakotan

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What is the secret to taking pictures of cues without getting the blinding reflection from the finish. I have a canon dig rebel XT and good lenses, now I just need to know how to avoid the reflection.

Thanks.
 
Zoom in as much as you can and get back as far as you can. That's what i do at work when I need to take photos of reflective items.

pete:cool:
 
ndakotan said:
What is the secret to taking pictures of cues without getting the blinding reflection from the finish. I have a canon dig rebel XT and good lenses, now I just need to know how to avoid the reflection.

Thanks.
Natural window light will help, maybe trying not use the flash or maybe bouncing the flash off the ceiling.
 
As everyone has stated, lighting is the key to good photography. Rather than pointing you to an obscure photography website link, I will suggest a couple of practical tips:

1. Ensure that the light source (e.g. light bulb) is not directly above the cue. Try to light the cue from the side (preferably both left and right). Try to avoid using a flash as this will just reflect directly back to you.
2. If possible use soft natural light. You can do this by positioning the cue close to a large window during the day (the glass helps to diffuse - or soften - the incoming light). This will also ensure that the cue is lit from the side rather than from above which will minimize the reflections.
3. Hang something very white (e.g. a bedsheet, printer paper etc.) behind the cue. The white background will reduce the clutter in the background and focus the viewer's attention onto the cue. Viattorre's website has good examples of how effective this can be...

Hope this helps...

Arctic.
 
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ndakotan said:
What is the secret to taking pictures of cues without getting the blinding reflection from the finish. I have a canon dig rebel XT and good lenses, now I just need to know how to avoid the reflection.

Thanks.

Try a circular polarizer. It will help by eliminating reflections from glass and other non-metallic surfaces. I have had good luck with cues and the highly polished finishes.

Shoot from an angle, too. Polarizers work best when the light source is perpendicular to your lens.

Brian
 
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Side-lighting results in uneven lighting and an inaccurate photo. Daylight through a window is difficult to adjust.

Make a hoop from a wire coat hanger. Stretch white cloth across it. Hang this light diffuser between the photo subject and your light source. Layers of cheesecloth (sold at Home Depot for straining paint) can be used to allow different percentages of light to pass through the diffuser.

White backgrounds produce a "floating in space" effect that seems unreal, creating an often subconscious impression that the photo is faked. I use a piece of Kelly green felt to provide a background very similar to a cue's natural context. Photos look richer and more credible.
 
That's great, practical advice DH which I'm sure ndakotan can put to good use. Perhaps if you post examples of pics you've taken, our friend could use them as inspiration.
 
Since you have a digital that will allow you to take pictures and view them right away and then delete what you don't like,i'd take some pictures with a tissue over my flash and maybe double it etc. If that doesn't work you might have to find a way to deflect your light source with white cardboard,wrinkled tinfoil etc. Good Luck
 
ndakotan said:
What is the secret to taking pictures of cues without getting the blinding reflection from the finish. I have a canon dig rebel XT and good lenses, now I just need to know how to avoid the reflection.
We offer a service to photograph your cues, glare free and any color background you desire.
Click the website link below and look at the cues to see examples of our quality.
arcticmonkey said:
Hang something very white (e.g. a bedsheet, printer paper etc.) behind the cue. The white background will reduce the clutter in the background and focus the viewer's attention onto the cue. Viattorre's website has good examples of how effective this can be....
The photos on Viattorre's website are probably not photographed against a white background, it is added later. Just as we add different color backgrounds.
Vittorre's pictures also have quite a bit of glare.
 
billiardcue said:
We offer a service to photograph your cues, glare free and any color background you desire.
Click the website link below and look at the cues to see examples of our quality.

This is great to know, billiardcue, but with the equipment he has and with a little advice from the forum, I think ndakotan could get some good pics without paying for a professional service and having to ship cues. Do you have any suggestions for how he can produce some good, low cost results at home?

By the way, I tried the link within your website to cuepics.com but it launched a blank page - is the link broken?

billiardcue said:
The photos on Viattorre's website are probably not photographed against a white background, it is added later. Just as we add different color backgrounds.
Vittorre's pictures also have quite a bit of glare.

Good point. I do agree that they have an undesirable amount of glare. I was just trying to illustrate the difference a clean background can make because I see a lot of cue pics posted on AZ that use horrible carpet patterns as background!
 
billiardcue said:
We offer a service to photograph your cues, glare free and any color background you desire.
Click the website link below and look at the cues to see examples of our quality.

The photos on Viattorre's website are probably not photographed against a white background, it is added later. Just as we add different color backgrounds.
Vittorre's pictures also have quite a bit of glare.

So you're not going to give us any tips?!
 
ndakotan said:
What is the secret to taking pictures of cues without getting the blinding reflection from the finish. I have a canon dig rebel XT and good lenses, now I just need to know how to avoid the reflection.

Thanks.

I use light stands with cloth diffusers above and behind me to the sides and move my head to where I see the least reflection then use that position for the shot - if you use flash, do so at a slight angle to the cue. Any small amount of reflection can be removed with photoshop type of software with the clone tool. Diffusers don't work very well on cues.

The background is very important. I've found that fine artificial suedes from a fabric store work pretty well.

Chris
 
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TATE said:
The background is very important. I've found that fine artificial suedes from a fabric store work pretty well.

Chris

Chris,

I know this is my next step. I'm thinking of getting a light blue and a nice neutral grey. Do you prefer to "float" the cue or lay it directly on the background?
 
Interesting subject ...

I was wondering about this also. I don't think that today's digital cameras
offer the flexibility that a good 35MM reflex camera offers.

Does anyone use umbrella lights or other type lights to diffuse the light?
 
" Quote Zeeder: Chris,

I know this is my next step. I'm thinking of getting a light blue and a nice neutral grey. Do you prefer to "float" the cue or lay it directly on the background?
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Zeeder

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Zeeder,

The light gray works very well. The fine suede fabrics are very non-reflective, so you can place the cues right on them and the fabric floats to the background. With the non-reflective surface, you can see the edges of the cue better. it's best to use dark colors for light cues and gray or any pastel shade for darker cues.



This photo, for example, just has the cues laying on the fabric, even though the cues appear to be floating over it:

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The other thing I like about this suede is it stores relatively flat. If you iron it and fold it properly, you won't have to iron it too much for it to lay flat. The more creased and wrinkly the cloth is, the more the camera picks it up because the light is reflected off the creases.

Chris

Ps. I prefer to have some reflection off the cues because this is a natural look and it shows the cues are reflective, as long as you don't lose too much detail. It's easy to get rid of minor reflections off ebony with software if desired.
 
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TATE said:
" Quote Zeeder: Chris,

I know this is my next step. I'm thinking of getting a light blue and a nice neutral grey. Do you prefer to "float" the cue or lay it directly on the background?
__________________
Zeeder

____________________________________________________________________________



Zeeder,

The light gray works very well. The fine suede fabrics are very non-reflective, so you can place the cues right on them and the fabric floats to the background. With the non-reflective surface, you can see the edges of the cue better. it's best to use dark colors for light cues and gray or any pastel shade for darker cues.



This photo, for example, just has the cues laying on the fabric, even though the cues appear to be floating over it:

The other thing I like about this suede is it stores relatively flat. If you iron it and fold it properly, you won't have to iron it too much for it to lay flat. The more creased and wrinkly the cloth is, the more the camera picks it up because the light is reflected off the creases.

Chris

Ps. I prefer to have some reflection off the cues because this is a natural look and it shows the cues are reflective, as long as you don't lose too much detail. It's easy to get rid of minor reflections off ebony with software if desired.

Chris,

Thanks for the info, it is much appreciated!

Zack
 
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