TAR: Help Wanted For SVB vs Frost Match July 31-August 2

I suppose if you have enough qualified applicants who are interested in "helping out"...you could hold some sort of lottery to determine who gets to go this time and then let the others go the next time, etc...
Since this will probably also involve some trial and error, it would probably also be a good way to weed out the better score keepers and sumerizers for future use.
 
FLICKit said:
My name is John Casey. I am the one that Stuckart mentioned in his post above. He also notified me about this with a text message, figuring that I'd be interested based on the passion and interest that I've invested into this. And he's right!!! I'm interested.

It's been a hobby and fascination of mine. I have put together a statistical rating package that I've been working on for many years. It brings additional details and nuances to accessing player performance on the pool table by use of statistics.

Some of its unique features is that it tracks not only breaking percentage, but shooting percentage, defense and even some counter defensive play and many more.

Many people have seen a simplified version of the system that I created / innovated. This includes Sarah Rousey, Mark Griffin of BCA/CSI, and unfortunately Frank Alvarez III of UPA as well.

We have since advanced the software package to enhance its capabilities even further.
We are perfectly situated to provide exactly the service that you are requesting.

Some interesting stats that I have found interesting are:
Kelly Fisher v Allison Fisher - 2007 Quarterfinals match
After 6 games, Allison Fisher was playing 100% perfect pool. Every time she got to the table, she ran out to win the game. When she broke, she made something and ran out. And when Kelly errored, Allison came to the table and ran out. Score was 5-1 because Kelly also had a break and run.
I just thought that was fascinating, because the 5-1 score didn't adequately show how well Allison was playing to most observers without the stats.

Another one that sounds interesting is tracking several matches of Efren Reyes. We all know that he's the magician.
In top pro matches, it was better for the opponent if Efren was playing defense on them, rather than playing defense against Efren.
Normally, playing defense against an opponent will net an advantage to the defensive player. But this was overwhelmingly not true when playing defense on Efren.

In over 100 games in the Shane Van Boening v John Hennesee 10 ball match (race to 8 ahead) with a wild 9 spot.

Shane Van Boening
93% - shooting
63% - successful breaking

John Hennessee
89% - shooting
68% - successful breaking

With both of them missing or erroring a shot only once in every 3 games (on average).
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Personally, I would take John atleast for 1 of the spots. He has worked on this system extremely hard for the past few years. Part of that was going back and watching many historic events. He has posted articles in a local pool publication in Arizona that was written very well.

I did have the luxury of having John score a challenge match between myself and Chucklez65 last year and the level of reporting was amazing to me.
 
Predator5K4 said:
I like this idea, but I think you also have to agree on a methodology. For instance, because I'm a little eccentric and need a life, I studied the Accu-Stats 9-Ball scoring methodology, downloaded the scoresheets and the instructions and scored the Alex Shane Race to 23. I also got a good way through Action Challenge I w/ Shane and Corey, but no kidding, my dog ate it. She was only 3 months and found my steno pad.

I think a couple of other people also mentioned it before, but maybe shifts is the way to go. A 3 hour shift, perhaps? If you were to do this, you would definitely have to have a common methodology and common understanding among all of the scorekeepers. For instance, how do you score a 2-way shot, a miss, a safety, etc.

All this being said, I would be very eager to help TAR in any way I can.
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Just use the sheet used at all WPBA events and most or their qualifying tours. Who broke, how many balls on the break, scratches, B&Rs, winner/loser, etc. I forget everything that's on there, but it is simple enough for the players to use during their matches.
 
If I may respond respectfully I believe that the women don't like having to do the stats while they are playing. Even with its simplicity, it still is distracting and doesn't allow the players to focus on the level that they really want to.

Given no other option. I would say it is definitely better than nothing though.
 
I used to write sports features for a local newspaper here in Des Moines. I have a minor in English. I know what criteria you have listed. If your looking for someone (additionally perhaps), to report on the match, the days happenings, the off camera theatrics, the side action going on, and the general emotion of the event, than I could easily and competently assist you. I don't do stats. I do write with an easy and fun to read flavor. I live 5 minutes from big dog's and will be there all three days. In fact I'm there virtually everyday. I'm a friend of Scott's as well. If I can assist you let me know. No biggy either way.
 
Roy Steffensen said:
Also, I would consider having people work for no more at 3 hours at the time. I have done stats before at matches and it is a killer after a couple of hours. I would never do stats in front of the computer for like 8 hours in a row.
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Roy has a point here, once a man loses concentration and misses some part of the stats unintentionally, the stats is false. A tiny mistake can ruin it. So, long matches should be divided into smaller increments and the stats tracker should make notes of the attended period. Like "tracking starts at rack #59, score 37-22, tracking ends after rack #77, score 47-30". With that, all you have to do is just connect the pieces based on detailed stats for each rack. I mean it's better if they slightly overlap, like one starts tracking at rack #25 while the other ends tracking at rack #28 or similar.
 
gdog said:
I used to write sports features for a local newspaper here in Des Moines. I have a minor in English. I know what criteria you have listed. If your looking for someone (additionally perhaps), to report on the match, the days happenings, the off camera theatrics, the side action going on, and the general emotion of the event, than I could easily and competently assist you. I don't do stats. I do write with an easy and fun to read flavor. I live 5 minutes from big dog's and will be there all three days. In fact I'm there virtually everyday. I'm a friend of Scott's as well. If I can assist you let me know. No biggy either way.
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I can Vouch for Gary as a reference as someone from Des Moines as well that will be watching the stream Friday and Saturday and attending on Sunday. He is witty and keeps it entertaining which is a big bonus when watching pool.
 
What we should all probably keep in mind is it's not like this is the last TAR event ever. I think many of us are anxious to help TAR out in any way that we can. Let's say there is a group of 15 people that want to donate our services. That gets split up five per day.
Each day, five will take shifts and do their stuff: fill out whatever form gets agreed to, builds their list of highlights and adds their commentary. This then gets sent to Justin and Chad and they can pick the top 5 or 6 guys that are their A team for future TAR events. This doesn't necessarily have to be perfect for next weekend, but it does have to be productive. The alternative is to designate a couple of different matches. For instance, Alex Shane Race to 100 DVD #7, Shane Corey Race to 100 DVD #3 and Shane Efren Race to 23 DVD #2. Everyone interested is bound to have at least one of these. If not, I think I found another way that they can help TAR. But any way, give everyone five days to "try out," using one of these three DVD's and Justin and Chad can make their selections off of these entries. From what it sounds like with some of the previous posts, there are a number of people that are pretty capable of doing a great job.
 
Some great ideas here guys. Thank you all very much. Chad and I will put our heads together and let everyone know what we decide on. I am leaning towards the more is better approach in the beginning because it is so easy to miss something in a match this long.

Maybe go with people on site as well as online.

Thanks very much to all who have volunteered their time, skills and ideas in this thread.
 
gdog said:
I used to write sports features for a local newspaper here in Des Moines. I have a minor in English. I know what criteria you have listed. If your looking for someone (additionally perhaps), to report on the match, the days happenings, the off camera theatrics, the side action going on, and the general emotion of the event, than I could easily and competently assist you. I don't do stats. I do write with an easy and fun to read flavor. I live 5 minutes from big dog's and will be there all three days. In fact I'm there virtually everyday. I'm a friend of Scott's as well. If I can assist you let me know. No biggy either way.
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I agree that the person writing the press release at the end of the day should be someone that was in the room. I don't think it's good enough to recap just the pool.
 
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