TAR Pockets
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Watching Mike in his chair spoke volumes as to what negativity was running through him. Yeah, no one likes getting spanked, but even early on - match still in the balance - it was head holding and head shaking ad naseum.
He was freewheeling because he was playing well and had a huge lead to work with. Not because the table was easy. Watch the beginning and the intenseness on his face when MD is running his 3 after he lets him in on the first ball. He's ready to jump out of his chair.
MD was so intense during his initial racks. He gave everything he he had and SVB left him in the dust. He saw this and knew he could not compete. The rest was just MD becoming unglued. We have all been there.
Nick
I get your point. But you well know that the conditions are often quite different in golf during a top pro event versus a normal day for amateurs on the same course -- tees pushed back, fairways narrowed, rough grown longer, greens mowed shorter, cup placed in tougher positions. The cup size is the same, but the course setup is quite different.
For pool, I'm pretty neutral on this issue. I enjoy seeing matches under very tough conditions as well as under "normal" pro conditions. And I don't think the inconsistencies in table set-ups have much to do with "why the general public does not get into pool." I imagine the general public is unaware of the differences.
ed
Sir,
I know what you're saying, I have played the Monday after the Pro Golf Tournament at English Turn in New Orleans a couple of times & enjoyed it very much because the course was in near pristine condition. The only thing I would not like is playing from the back tees which naturally I did not do at my age.
I'm not really concerned with the TAR table. That's completely up to them & what they want to do for their events.
But, if we are going to use a table & pocket size to gauge pro players' ability, the answer is simple. The table is the same for both players.
If we want to neutralize the break we can have a designated breaker that breaks for both parties. I guess one could accuse the breaker of favoritism or of being bought off. How about a machine that breaks at a set speed that the player only aligns & then pushes the launch button.
How about the opponent breaks for the player to take the table regardless of balls made or not. Naturally legal break rules would need to apply. Turn the break into a defensive shot.
The general pocket size issue is one of pro vs amatuer & money. Room owners need tables for the pool playing public vs tight tables for pros.
I'm just saying some standards would be a step in the right direction. A certain size table with a certain size pocket is the official pro qualifying table. Anything else is an amatuer table. PS no shims allowed, pure rails only.
I'm sure it can be figured out. x size table must have y size pockets or less to qualify as a pro table, again no shims. x minus 1 size table must have y minus 1/z or less size pockets to be a pro table.
Pool has to take a first step in the right direction if it ever wants to become anything even close to a respected game. I know it will not be easy because it will cost money. The littles girl needs a new pair of shoes. She now wants to be consider a grown woman. Perhaps a higher heeled shoe is in order to lift her up & make it apparent that she not a little orphan girl any longer.
Again, JMHO.
Regards to You, Sir &
Sir,
I know what you're saying, I have played the Monday after the Pro Golf Tournament at English Turn in New Orleans a couple of times & enjoyed it very much because the course was in near pristine condition. The only thing I would not like is playing from the back tees which naturally I did not do at my age.
I'm not really concerned with the TAR table. That's completely up to them & what they want to do for their events.
But, if we are going to use a table & pocket size to gauge pro players' ability, the answer is simple. The table is the same for both players.
If we want to neutralize the break we can have a designated breaker that breaks for both parties. I guess one could accuse the breaker of favoritism or of being bought off. How about a machine that breaks at a set speed that the player only aligns & then pushes the launch button.
How about the opponent breaks for the player to take the table regardless of balls made or not. Naturally legal break rules would need to apply. Turn the break into a defensive shot.
The general pocket size issue is one of pro vs amatuer & money. Room owners need tables for the pool playing public vs tight tables for pros.
I'm just saying some standards would be a step in the right direction. A certain size table with a certain size pocket is the official pro qualifying table. Anything else is an amatuer table. PS no shims allowed, pure rails only.
I'm sure it can be figured out. x size table must have y size pockets or less to qualify as a pro table, again no shims. x minus 1 size table must have y minus 1/z or less size pockets to be a pro table.
Pool has to take a first step in the right direction if it ever wants to become anything even close to a respected game. I know it will not be easy because it will cost money. The littles girl needs a new pair of shoes. She now wants to be consider a grown woman. Perhaps a higher heeled shoe is in order to lift her up & make it apparent that she not a little orphan girl any longer.
Again, JMHO.
Regards to You, Sir &
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Exactly, it only because boring because MD could not fire back when given the chance. Which will of course make the other player start to free stroke.
If you analyze the match - it's not about just the pocketing of balls - it's about how to stay consistent and in that zone. Shane stayed focused no matter what happened - MD was too busy playing with the music and throwing fits when Shane would get a roll or two.
Well put - It seemed that MD came out of the gate and looked at Shane to see if he was rattled. Shane responded - MD had chances to but did not. I rather watch pool like this because it teaches you how mentally, by watching the actions and reactions of the players, to approach the game.
One thing is for sure - Shane's mental game is elite.
When he's winning. I've seen plenty of times when he's down and he has that give up look when he's slumped over in his chair. He still handles it better than most though, and he'll only get better with time.
As for Shane's break, yeah it's great, but it wasn't the deciding factor. I could have broken for Shane, and he still would've won.
Unless you can break and sink 2-3 balls on a 10 ball break and line up the 1 an inch from a pocket with the cueball 3 feet from it, he may not have won. The break was huge here, Shane had lots of easy layouts after the break, not much to do for even an A or B player. If Shane broke for an A player, that A player could probably beat many "Pro" players.
Really the thing that lost the second set for Mike was him missing a straight shot on a ball when it was 5-6 or something. Then Shane won that game, put a few more together, and you can't catch up.
I partly agree with you. I did buy the stream. In fact, I buy the stream every time except for the times that I'm working nights. I prefer the 4 1/8" pockets. This is the pocket size that I play on at home.
In a world filled with an overabundance of pool stream viewers, I wish he would take our advice. But, what I really want is for Justin to do whatever he can to increase the number of viewers so he can stay in business and keep suppling my pool addiction.
