Tascarella and Phillippi listed on Ebay

Since this is a no reserve auction and you don't say you have the right to end early will it definitely sell through this auction? I just thought I'd ask since I know a lot of people do no reserve auctions so it's cheap and then pull them early if it's not going their way. Thanks for your time and any info you can give me.
 
A seller always reserves the right to end an auction early on his item(s).

This auction will be ended early for the right cash offer.
 
UGOTDA7 said:
A seller always reserves the right to end an auction early on his item(s).

This auction will be ended early for the right cash offer.
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You may have a right to end your auction early, but as per eBay policy:

Reasons for ending listings early include:

-The item is no longer available for sale.
-There was an error in the starting price or reserve amount.
-There was an error in the listing.
-The item was lost or broken.

When there are 12 hours or fewer remaining and the item has a winning bid, including a reserve met bid, sellers may not make any changes to the listing, including ending the item early. Sellers may cancel bids, but not end the item.

Note: Sellers are not permitted to cancel bids and end listings early in order to avoid selling an item that did not meet the desired sale price. This is considered to be reserve fee circumvention.

I'm sure the seller can twist the situation around enough to squeeze it through eBay's rules, but everyone knows that's not usually the case.

Unfortunately you see this more and more on eBay, especially with custom cues. I'd rather bid on an item with a reserve than one that includes "Item for sale locally..." I doubt you have to include this phrase to give yourself the option of ending it early, but as soon as I read it I know that's what will happen if the seller's "unlisted" reserve isn't being met.

My personal opinion is that if an item is up for auction, it shouldn't be available for purchase anywhere else. Imagine a live auction in progress, bids being placed, and suddenly the auctioneer stops and says "Sorry, this item is no longer available. The owner just sold it to someone in the parking lot." I doubt this happens very frequently, and my guess is because it isn't allowed.

I fully appreciate not wanting to sell your $2000 cue for $600, but that's why a reserve price can be set. I know "everyone" does it, but it's pretty cheesy IMO.
 
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Qnut said:
You may have a right to end your auction early, but as per eBay policy:

Reasons for ending listings early include:

-The item is no longer available for sale.
-There was an error in the starting price or reserve amount.
-There was an error in the listing.
-The item was lost or broken.

When there are 12 hours or fewer remaining and the item has a winning bid, including a reserve met bid, sellers may not make any changes to the listing, including ending the item early. Sellers may cancel bids, but not end the item.

Note: Sellers are not permitted to cancel bids and end listings early in order to avoid selling an item that did not meet the desired sale price. This is considered to be reserve fee circumvention.

I'm sure the seller can twist the situation around enough to squeeze it through eBay's rules, but everyone knows that's not usually the case.

Unfortunately you see this more and more on eBay, especially with custom cues. I'd rather bid on an item with a reserve than one that includes "Item for sale locally..." I doubt you have to include this phrase to give yourself the option of ending it early, but as soon as I read it I know that's what will happen if the seller's "unlisted" reserve isn't being met.

My personal opinion is that if an item is up for auction, it shouldn't be available for purchase anywhere else. Imagine a live auction in progress, bids being placed, and suddenly the auctioneer stops and says "Sorry, this item is no longer available. The owner just sold it to someone in the parking lot." I doubt this happens very frequently, and my guess is because it isn't allowed.

I fully appreciate not wanting to sell your $2000 cue for $600, but that's why a reserve price can be set. I know "everyone" does it, but it's pretty cheesy IMO.
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IT SEEMS THE SAME OLD CUES KEEP APEARING WITH THIS SAME TATIC,EITHER IT GETS CLOSED OR THE BIDDERS ID IS HIDDEN AND THE CUES SELLS FOR SOME REDICULIOUS PRICE AND THEN REAPEARS A FEW DAYS LATER SAYING THE WINNER HAD MONEY PROBLEM,HOW F'N STUPID DO THEY THINK WE ARE? THEY WERE HOPING THAT SOMEONE OUT BID THERE PHONY ID THEY USED TO RUN IT UP AND "HOOK" SOMEONE. OR THEY JUST CANCEL IT 12 HOURS BEFORE WHICH IS THERE RIGHT BUT I WOUNDER HOW MUCH IN RESERVE FEES IT COST TO LIST THESE CUES 10 TIMES! HARRIS CUES AND TASCARELLA'S ARE 2 CUES ON EBAY THAT ARE OVER PRICED AND NEVER GET WHAT SOME PEOPLE THINK THERE WORTH. ANYBODY OUT THERE TIRED TOO OF THE SAME OLD CRAP!
 
Qnut said:
You may have a right to end your auction early, but as per eBay policy:

Reasons for ending listings early include:

-The item is no longer available for sale.
-There was an error in the starting price or reserve amount.
-There was an error in the listing.
-The item was lost or broken.

When there are 12 hours or fewer remaining and the item has a winning bid, including a reserve met bid, sellers may not make any changes to the listing, including ending the item early. Sellers may cancel bids, but not end the item.

Note: Sellers are not permitted to cancel bids and end listings early in order to avoid selling an item that did not meet the desired sale price. This is considered to be reserve fee circumvention.

I'm sure the seller can twist the situation around enough to squeeze it through eBay's rules, but everyone knows that's not usually the case.

Unfortunately you see this more and more on eBay, especially with custom cues. I'd rather bid on an item with a reserve than one that includes "Item for sale locally..." I doubt you have to include this phrase to give yourself the option of ending it early, but as soon as I read it I know that's what will happen if the seller's "unlisted" reserve isn't being met.

My personal opinion is that if an item is up for auction, it shouldn't be available for purchase anywhere else. Imagine a live auction in progress, bids being placed, and suddenly the auctioneer stops and says "Sorry, this item is no longer available. The owner just sold it to someone in the parking lot." I doubt this happens very frequently, and my guess is because it isn't allowed.

I fully appreciate not wanting to sell your $2000 cue for $600, but that's why a reserve price can be set. I know "everyone" does it, but it's pretty cheesy IMO.
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This did not used to be Ebay policy. Those like me that have been doing it for quite a while know this. Auctions could be ended by the seller right up until the ending time with no restrictions.

However, Ebay changed this policy a while back. This was a way to encourage the use of reserve auctions. And do you know why they did that? Money, simple as that. A reserve fee for this auction would have been $20-$25. Ebay likes to get your money coming and going every which way they can all the while nickling and diming you to death.

People tend to have a very shallow view of the way things work until they venture into listing items of value on Ebay themselves. Incurring the up front costs and risks associated with selling items on Ebay tends to change one's perspective on things. What is funny is that once their own money is on the line these same people usually change their tune pretty quick.

It is my experience that the only people who get upset with the way things really work on Ebay are those who essentially want something for nothing.

I would venture to say that if anyone really wanted an item and had the funds to get it that they would get it no matter which way an auction was handled. If the auction ran to completion they could simply place the high bid. If they wanted to end it early they could make the appropriate cash offer to the seller.

I have done this from both ends many times. As a matter of fact I just today bought a motorcycle from a seller on Ebay. He had a starting bid of $5800. I emailed him and asked him what the cash price was. He quoted $6,250. I said OK, drove up and got it today with cash in hand. If I wanted to risk saving a little money I could have waited for the auction to end to place a bid. Maybe it would have gone over $6,250. Maybe it would not have received any bids and the seller would have ended it early. Who knows? But I wanted it, I had the funds to get it, so I got it. Cash is king, even on Ebay.

The point being that if somebody wants an item all they have to do is have the funds to get it. If they do, they will get it, simple as that.

Bottom line, what you call cheesy others call smart.
 
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justabrake said:
If I was selling a cue I would have added Cue to the title!
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Yeah, I should have done that, I agree.

I was focusing so much on trying to get all of the other technicalities in there that I forgot the most obvious part.

Hopefully most people know what they are though.
 
UGOTDA7 said:
Yeah, I should have done that, I agree.

I was focusing so much on trying to get all of the other technicalities in there that I forgot the most obvious part.

Hopefully most people know what they are though.
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The issue is: adding "cue" to the title allows people to find the cues who search that way. Some people search for "cue" in "Billiards", or even by terms such as "palmer cue", because if you just type in "palmer" thousands of other items come up.

Chris
 
Qnut said:
You may have a right to end your auction early, but as per eBay policy:

Reasons for ending listings early include:

-The item is no longer available for sale.
-There was an error in the starting price or reserve amount.
-There was an error in the listing.
-The item was lost or broken.

When there are 12 hours or fewer remaining and the item has a winning bid, including a reserve met bid, sellers may not make any changes to the listing, including ending the item early. Sellers may cancel bids, but not end the item.

Note: Sellers are not permitted to cancel bids and end listings early in order to avoid selling an item that did not meet the desired sale price. This is considered to be reserve fee circumvention.

I'm sure the seller can twist the situation around enough to squeeze it through eBay's rules, but everyone knows that's not usually the case.

Unfortunately you see this more and more on eBay, especially with custom cues. I'd rather bid on an item with a reserve than one that includes "Item for sale locally..." I doubt you have to include this phrase to give yourself the option of ending it early, but as soon as I read it I know that's what will happen if the seller's "unlisted" reserve isn't being met.

My personal opinion is that if an item is up for auction, it shouldn't be available for purchase anywhere else. Imagine a live auction in progress, bids being placed, and suddenly the auctioneer stops and says "Sorry, this item is no longer available. The owner just sold it to someone in the parking lot." I doubt this happens very frequently, and my guess is because it isn't allowed.

I fully appreciate not wanting to sell your $2000 cue for $600, but that's why a reserve price can be set. I know "everyone" does it, but it's pretty cheesy IMO.
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This is a different issue, but if I've received a good offer from a bidder to end early, what I have done is to legally end the auction by "accepting the highest bid:". I do not do it if there is more than one bidder. In the "End Listing Early" form there is a box where you can end the listing early by selling the item to the highest bidder. I ask the bidder to enter the agreed amount, then I end the listing early. It is recorded as a sale through E-Bay. The actual agreed upon price is not properly recorded (unless the bid is matched), so I save the coorespondence. This way the sale is legit, E-Bay gets their fees, feedback is recorded, etc.

I think sellers who habitually end their listings early ultimately hurt themselves. I will not bid on cues from some screennames who habitually do this. There are 3 or 4 who list a lot of cues, who never seem to get their price and cancel too many of their auctions.

Chris
 
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UGOTDA7 said:
Just listed these two auctions since I had some time on my hands. I'm open to cash offers on all cues pictured. Email me at ugotda7@hotmail.com if interested, questions, etc.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=21212&item=7148279395&rd=1

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=21212&item=7148280264&rd=1

Mike
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The scammers in Canada already copy-catted your listing - I just reported it.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=7148880119

Chris
 
UGOTDA7 said:
Thanks.

I just got home and had a bunch of emails from folks about this. I emailed the scammer and reported him as well.
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They took their time canceling it. It just happened literally while I was on the auction page (9am EST).

I hope it doesn't mess up my negotiations to purchase the cue from this seller. ;)

I emailed him last night to let him know what a sweet cue he had, and offered $3000 for it if he would end the auction. His reply...

i agree your price ! Let`s proceed to close this deal !

I told him that was great and that I needed his address so my uncle who lives in Terrebonne (a few miles from his supposed location) could come by to pick up the cue.

We'll have to see how that works out... :D
 
Qnut said:
They took their time canceling it. It just happened literally while I was on the auction page (9am EST).

I hope it doesn't mess up my negotiations to purchase the cue from this seller. ;)

I emailed him last night to let him know what a sweet cue he had, and offered $3000 for it if he would end the auction. His reply...

i agree your price ! Let`s proceed to close this deal !

I told him that was great and that I needed his address so my uncle who lives in Terrebonne (a few miles from his supposed location) could come by to pick up the cue.

We'll have to see how that works out... :D
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Still, E-Bay is faster as this then they used to be. It used to take three or 4 days for them to investigate. Sitill I think if they devote 99% of their energy collecting their fees and 1% on our security - it's disgusting and so obvious. I think this is the second biggest threat to their long term growth.

You have to be careful contacting the scammers. Block your e-mail address if you can, or use an account you only use for potential spammers. They're fishing for screen names and e-mail accounts, and they'll spam you. Then they'll try to scam you some other way, like a "you've got pictures" scam, or a "second chance offer", or a paypal thing. Some of the scams are getting good. I actually got sucked into signing into an AOL screen before realizing seconds later what I had done, and immediately changed my password.

Chris
 
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