Team Decals on a Cue, how to do it legally?

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I have a customer that wants me to build him a Cue with Colors of the Washington Redskins Football Team and place the Redskins Logo on the Butt Sleeve. If the sticker is "purchased" buy me do I have the right to put it on the Cue and sell it? Or, do I need to do a separate work order stating that the customer brought back the Cue for a re-clear coat after he applied the sticker? Any help with this would be appreciated. Thanks. ~ Shawn
 
I have a customer that wants me to build him a Cue with Colors of the Washington Redskins Football Team and place the Redskins Logo on the Butt Sleeve. If the sticker is "purchased" buy me do I have the right to put it on the Cue and sell it? Or, do I need to do a separate work order stating that the customer brought back the Cue for a re-clear coat after he applied the sticker? Any help with this would be appreciated. Thanks. ~ Shawn

I don't know if it's legal or not but I built 3 cues that way about 16 years ago. A Chicago Bulls, a Cincinnati Reds and a Ohio State.

Dick
 
When I sell custom painted printers with sports logos I buy the decals and put them on as a service to the buyer. I do not charge them for the decal, although I can charge for the service. I checked with Green Bay Packers front office and was told that to their knowledge this is ok.
 
I saw a Budweiser cue that someone redid. I think they cored it out, definitely changed the shaft and joint on it, it hit really nice. It was the most entertaining "sneaky pete" Ive ever seen. I have been thinking about doing the same thing with a cheap team cue, I think you can get them off NFL.com. I guess this route depends on if your customer would be ok with it.
 
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I have a customer that wants me to build him a Cue with Colors of the Washington Redskins Football Team and place the Redskins Logo on the Butt Sleeve. If the sticker is "purchased" buy me do I have the right to put it on the Cue and sell it? Or, do I need to do a separate work order stating that the customer brought back the Cue for a re-clear coat after he applied the sticker? Any help with this would be appreciated. Thanks. ~ Shawn

You can put purchased logos on any custom product. You cannot sell that product as a licensed item though.
 
I knew a cuemaker from Texas that was buying foootball team stickers at the college in his town and putting them on cues and selling the cues and the college told him to quit doing it. Whether they were right or wrong he quit.
 
I knew a cuemaker from Texas that was buying foootball team stickers at the college in his town and putting them on cues and selling the cues and the college told him to quit doing it. Whether they were right or wrong he quit.

Because he was in effect making a new product that should be a licensed product. Copyright and trademark law is murky on these points.

But essentially it's like this, for personal use if you buy a licensed logo in the form of a decal or a patch then you can decorate any item with it. What you cannot do is make a line of Harley Davidson saddlebags using Harley patches for commercial sale.

So then it brings up the question of WHO is allowed to attach your sticker to an item. Only yourself or can you designate someone to do it?

The answer is that you can designate someone to modify your stuff, or even make you a new thing and put the sticker on it because that is substantially the same as if you did it your self for your own personal consumption. That is fair use and covered in case law.

I cannot however advertise that I will make a Harley case with a Harley logo as an ongoing item using the loophole that the logo must be consumer-provided. I can however tell my customers that if they want the Harley logo on the case we can use whatever personal options would be available to them. In other words if they can take their case to a laser engraver and have the logo done then we offer that.

Now, your mileage may vary. Whether you are 100% in the right or not it comes down to what the rights holder cares to do when you use their logo. But generally if it's a private sale where you aren't advertising your ability and willingness to do logo'ed gear you will be nearly 100% safe from being hassled over it.

Most people will cave in if they are approached by the holder of the trademark and told to stop doing whatever they are doing. I suggest that people look up fair use and adhere to it as best they can. Generally for one off projects no one really cares.
 
a different point of veiw

if i build a cue and the person wants me to put his dallas cowboys sticker on, i will do that with no problem.
i will not build a cue, put a cowboys sticker on it, THEN PUT IT UP FOR SALE.
 
"if i build a cue and the person wants me to put his dallas cowboys sticker on, i will do that with no problem.
i will not build a cue, put a cowboys sticker on it, THEN PUT IT UP FOR SALE. "

That's what I was thinking. I will not "Pre-Build" a Team Cue. Only if approached by a customer to build him/her one.

Mr. Jim that's a really nice piece of work Sir.

Thank all of you for the guided information. ~ Shawn
 
Logo

Anyone hear of a company name "American Family Products" use to sell pool table lights & barstools - they put a sticker of Harley , Bud & some college teams on lights put it in a catalog & sold it - well Harley took exception to it they didn't even send a letter asking them to quit the FBI raided his home & office no warning nothing the fine was $400,000.00 they settle out of court
 
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I guess if it is for personal used or a customized order from customers, having a decal on a cue would not be an issue.
 
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