I haven't done this scientifically so your results should be the guide. I promise you will learn something including big clues on what to develop in your craft.
Template Rack 9-Ball too easy for pros...
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BuffaloSlim
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Maybe some 9 .. 1 pocket hmmm
That would make some breaks interesting.Or you could add a 7th hole, in the slate middle.
My list is long enoughI haven't done this scientifically so your results should be the guide. I promise you will learn something including big clues on what to develop in your craft.
tomatoshooter
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I like breaking from where the cue ball comes to rest.
I might try early 10 only counts if you sink a different nominated ball at the same time.
The middle hole is the foul hole
Woodshaft
Do what works for YOU!
Lots of good, and humorous ideas.
I think the bottom line is that most of us agree that the players and equipment are getting so good that it's making the games easier, especially at the pro level.
The "mandatory push after the break" rule that Bob J. mentioned is a fun one my friends and I play for 9-ball. Definitely makes practice more entertaining and useful. It has my vote for the pro game for sure.
I think the bottom line is that most of us agree that the players and equipment are getting so good that it's making the games easier, especially at the pro level.
The "mandatory push after the break" rule that Bob J. mentioned is a fun one my friends and I play for 9-ball. Definitely makes practice more entertaining and useful. It has my vote for the pro game for sure.
1) ...check
2) ...interest placement of the rack. Never tried it myself. Early 10s dumb down the game imo. Thought we wanted to make it more challenging..?
3) ...never going to happen. The size of table is partially market driven. 10fters will never be the table of the pros.
4) ...check
5) ...This is bunk. Either have jumping or don't. This long vs short argument is weak sauce.
6) ...I've seen this done in a small Predator professional circuit in Quebec. Some think it's dumb but I think it's great. No less gimmicky then a shoot out to decide a winner imo. Certainly adds an element that makes stringing racks together more difficult.
No referee... The owner of the room decides the rules/calls after factoring in who he's betting on.
You could allow multiple 10s/9s. This could add drama in a typical fixed tourney race. IOW race goes to the maximum number of games while the points would have no restraints.
11-ball with 9-ball rules has been an idea of mine for a while, understanding that pushing for non-WPA 10-ball is a losing cause for me.
Jump cues make it MUCH too easy to hop over balls, even when they're close to the cueball. Only allowing full-cue jumps would separate the great jumpers from the pretenders and would force more kicking. It's disgusting to play a great safe and have your opponent pull out a jump-cue—essentially a crutch—and easily make the hit.
BuffaloSlim
Active member
How about the cue ball must land in the kitchen for your break shot or the 10 gets spotted for opponent to shoot at from where the cue ball did land .. that would remove all the ball in hand on the break
I'd rather we tighten tables/rules for an existing game rather than create a new game, mainly because its yet another new discipline to explain to non-pool players when trying to bring them into the fold and grow the interest. I still have people look at me the way that RCA Victor dog looked at the phonograph when explaining why 10 ball is a thing.
No, but the ones that helped develop and popularize the jump cue were Pat Fleming of New Jersey and Sammy Jones of California. AZB's deceased but still beloved poster Hemicudas noted that the real origin of the jump cue dates back to when the world's greatest bumper pool player, Marcus Collier, used his bumper pool cue in a pro pool event in about 1970 to execute a jump shot. Per Hemicudas, this caught the attention of several pro pool players, who quickly understood that a jump shot could be executed far more easily with a shorter and firmer cue. The rest, as they say, is history.I think it's too bad jump cues weren't outlawed immediately. Didn't Pat Flemming invent the jump cue?
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A great safe the "only" safe at pro level is leaving the cueball locked to a ball. I dont like jump cues either. But pros are just gonna force you to kick early in a game. Then a guy has gotta get a somewhat lucky roll where opponent that played origional has to bank....if not.. Then the guy that played the first safe can play yet another even better safe. Get ball in hand and run out an even easier rack.
Hell I'm to a point where u better leave me more than a one rail kick or your not gonna like how you played your half ass safe. I'm no where near the level of these pros
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Since this industry loves comparing itself to golf -- and there really are true parallels so I completely get it -- it would be good to mention that there have been technology improvements in golf as well which have made the pros much better and scores much lower. Metal woods, multi-layered balls, hybrid clubs and turf management improvements which have made putting greens much smoother and slicker. No one in golf has proposed inventing a new game or playing more holes or anything else except making courses tougher -- longer lengths, tighter fairways, bringing hazards into play in key landing areas, etc. Occasionally people huff and puff about dialing back the golf balls but, as long as Titleist and Bridgestone continue to sell them by the boatload, that won't happen. Maybe that's where pool should head as well, like professionals going back to competing on 5 by 10 tables with tight pockets as a standard instead of a one-off event at Derby and now International.
Think about your own personal golf game if you play. Unless you're a 10-handicap or less you probably aren't playing from the tips; you're on the white tees like the rest of us. Why? The course is shorter and that makes it more manageable. And if you are playing from the black tees, you're doing it because the white tees aren't a challenge to you any longer. Whats the factor in all of this? Distance and space.
Think about your own personal golf game if you play. Unless you're a 10-handicap or less you probably aren't playing from the tips; you're on the white tees like the rest of us. Why? The course is shorter and that makes it more manageable. And if you are playing from the black tees, you're doing it because the white tees aren't a challenge to you any longer. Whats the factor in all of this? Distance and space.
...and break cues make the break easier, and cue extensions allow players not to develop the skill to use a mechanical bridge. etc... etc...
Love or hate jump sticks, jumping is apart of the game. If you're going to limit equipment then do it across the board.
You may or may not have followed the endless threads on this specific subject matter. However I'm also a fan of SJM's suggestion of only allowing the jump shot during the first shot of a player's inning. Weak safeties can still be punished but poor position play cannot be salvaged. Of course what a "great safety" actually is, is a subject opinion. What you may consider great, I probably don't.