Thank you from Classiccues and Steve Klein

Thomas Wayne said:


I realize you have an ax to grind with me, Matt - and have had for a long time. Obviously that is what motivates you to post, rather than any pretend "outrage" over my perfectly reasonable suggestion.

As for "getting off [my] ass", I have donated many pool cues to worthwhile charities and events, INCLUDING the Glenn effort - so maybe you should consider having a tiny clue about what you're talking about before attacking me over what you are only guessing I may or may not have done.

As for me "telling someone how to spend or donate their hard-earned money", what I offered was simply a suggestion for a public venue. I completely support the Glenn project, and believe it has the best chance of becoming a fully realized museum that will educate the general public and future pool enthusiasts for many generations to come. Unless I am way off base, that does seem to be pretty identical to the entire reason JV (et al) claim to have built these copies of Balabushka's work.

In fact, if anyone is suggesting that they might have some other, more pecuniary-based motive it would seem to be YOU. For myself, I am perfectly willing to take them at their word that they built the collection for the purpose of educating the public about the history of George Balabushka and his work. It they don't feel the Glenn project is a good choice there's always one of the many divisions of the Smithsonian Museum in D.C. In fact, given that a donation to that institution would be tax deductible, it might very well go a long way toward assuaging your great concerns over their (JV's and Mark's) financial interests.

But above all else I am absolutely sure that selling this collection to some collector, only to have him or her bury it away out of the sight of future generations would be the very antithesis of their stated goals. The actual choice of venue is far less important than the undeniable need for such an invaluable historic tribute to be on permanent public display somewhere.

TW

(PS: There's nothing wrong with suggesting to someone how and where they might donate their "hard-earned money". Newspapers, magazines, and television are all inundated (literally) with just such pitches for hundreds of charities, and I seriously doubt you express such fervent outrage against any of them. Just pointing that out in case you thought you were fooling anyone here.)
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In other words you believe this project was started to make money and using the "40th anniversary" moniker was just a marketing ploy.

A true commemoration would have been donated for all to see than to flip?
 
Matt,

Don't bother.

I am going to tell you something. When you purchased your Jerry R, and made a mistake, this was not the only forum that it was played out on. In fact someone, because he doesn't like your enthusiasm, or love of Jerry R tributes, called you the dumbest f**K on the planet. Now obviously that person must be the smartest person on the planet, or so he thinks.

Now your mistake was pretty dumb, however you didn't know. Even myself and a few other here, chuckled. But what they fail to see, is your enthusiasm for cues in general. This is not the first time they have mocked other peoples enthusiasm, because their opinions are everything and are the only ones that mean anything. They would feel nothing but elation to suck the joy out of someone elses pride of a cue.

These people through their ignorance have failed to realize its the people who start like you, that will pass on your enthusiasm of cues to other people. That will help the hobby to grow. They thrive on one upsmanship, since you're not accepted, what you must collect is junk compared to their holdings.

The only thing they nurture is disdain for a hobby where other people have views that differ from their own. As a dealer, I sell only cues that I like. But I have supplied to many collectors, and when someone asked my opinion of a cuemaker I don't carry, I don't immediately steer them to something I have. I recommend other dealers, or to talk to that cuemaker. I see the joy they have in collecting, which is what the hobby needs more of.

You're a peon to these people. A newbie, a green collector, you aren't worth spit to them. They make fun of you because you're still learning. Do not humor them with a response. Trust me it isn't worth it.

They'll mock this post, but its only because they know its true.

JV


Bavafongoul said:
Mia..... Mr. Wayne can get off his ass and build a cue to donate to the museum if it's important to him but you cross the line when you presume to tell someone how to spend or donate their hard-earned money, i.e., pool cues. Mr. Wayne should have had the decency to suggest a 'donation" by JV and MK discreetly but publishing this on the Forum was not the way to present his "opinion"....that's just how I see it, He should have picked up the phone and discussed this with the guys privately instead of behaving awfully cavalier with other people's money.

Matt B.
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dom_poppa said:
In other words you believe this project was started to make money and using the "40th anniversary" moniker was just a marketing ploy.
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I'm sorry, I don't remember writing that, OR any words to that effect. Rather than quote my entire post and then suggest that somewhere within it that's what I wrote, would mind terribly just quoting the relevant passage(s) that have led you to draw this erroneous conclusion?

Thanks.

TW

 
classiccues said:
Matt,

Don't bother.

I am going to tell you something. When you purchased your Jerry R, and made a mistake, this was not the only forum that it was played out on. In fact someone, because he doesn't like your enthusiasm, or love of Jerry R tributes, called you the dumbest f**K on the planet. Now obviously that person must be the smartest person on the planet, or so he thinks.

Now your mistake was pretty dumb, however you didn't know. Even myself and a few other here, chuckled. But what they fail to see, is your enthusiasm for cues in general. This is not the first time they have mocked other peoples enthusiasm, because their opinions are everything and are the only ones that mean anything. They would feel nothing but elation to suck the joy out of someone elses pride of a cue.

These people through their ignorance have failed to realize its the people who start like you, that will pass on your enthusiasm of cues to other people. That will help the hobby to grow. They thrive on one upsmanship, since you're not accepted, what you must collect is junk compared to their holdings.

The only thing they nurture is disdain for a hobby where other people have views that differ from their own. As a dealer, I sell only cues that I like. But I have supplied to many collectors, and when someone asked my opinion of a cuemaker I don't carry, I don't immediately steer them to something I have. I recommend other dealers, or to talk to that cuemaker. I see the joy they have in collecting, which is what the hobby needs more of.

You're a peon to these people. A newbie, a green collector, you aren't worth spit to them. They make fun of you because you're still learning. Do not humor them with a response. Trust me it isn't worth it.

They'll mock this post, but its only because they know its true.

JV
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well said and keep doing what you're doing.
 
klein

Hi Joe I don't know much about Klein cues but that group is very classy looking. Thanks for the pictures.
 
Steve Kline has knocked it out if the park and all his cues are awesome.

I love the concept if this project.

Rick
 
for the "what its worth" dept. , it is good to see this project materialize. i was glad to see these cues displayed. it was nice to see various parts that normally would not have seen the light of day, collected and assembled with ( from what i could observe) love and respect. i had to even mention to steve that i was a bit envious he got to handle the original parts. i am in no way qualified to do anything with the parts, but i sure wish i was and am glad steve is. the bottom line is that there are now 4 more cues to represent the era authenticaly. i don't understand any complaints on that. thanks to all that participated in this.
 
This is a fantastic project. The cues look stunning. Great job. And as forums go always entertaining.
 
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