That special cue

whiteoak

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How many AZBers have an "irreplacable cue" as your main player?By irreplacable i mean a rare cue(special cue by retired or deceased cuemaker,rare titlest conversion,etc) that literally cant be replaced exactly.I think a cue that coundnt be replaced for sentimental reasons qualifies also.If so do you cease to carry it as your main playing cue or instead feel more strongly about continueing to use it because of your history and familiarity with it?Mike S
 
whiteoak said:
How many AZBers have an "irreplacable cue" as your main player?

I'm one.

whiteoak said:
If so do you cease to carry it as your main playing cue or instead feel more strongly about continueing to use it because of your history and familiarity with it?Mike S

A question like that could be interpreted in a few unscruplious ways, so I choose not to answer. No offense, just being cautious.
 
I have a Skip that could not be replaced. Even if he made me another, this one can not be replaced.

Peacout,
~DC
 
whiteoak said:
How many AZBers have an "irreplacable cue" as your main player?By irreplacable i mean a rare cue(special cue by retired or deceased cuemaker,rare titlest conversion,etc) that literally cant be replaced exactly.I think a cue that coundnt be replaced for sentimental reasons qualifies also.If so do you cease to carry it as your main playing cue or instead feel more strongly about continueing to use it because of your history and familiarity with it?Mike S
I designed my current cue, so I guess the same design could be duplicated. The problem is that it was made from a 1940's Titlist with thin veneers. more subdued veneer colors and a woodgrain that I have never seen. I carry it because it is the end result of several cue experiments, and I feel that it is exactly what I want in terms of joint type, pin, balance, etc.
 
I would think anyone who gets a custom cue made and it becomes thier main playing cue for many yrs could be irreplaceable because the person becomes comfortable with that cue and how it plays.

But you could say that for almost anycue. If someone has been using that cue for many of years.

dave
 
My latest cue, an inexpensive Lucasi, is now my all time favorite cue. No kiddin, I have a wall full of customs, and all I can say is I didn't have to adjust for anything when I picked it up, and the balls are going where I'm looking, and I can ask for no more from a cue...Now if friggin Lucasi would start making extra shafts for the radial design.........hint hint....

Gerry
 
StormHotRod300 said:
I would think anyone who gets a custom cue made and it becomes thier main playing cue for many yrs could be irreplaceable because the person becomes comfortable with that cue and how it plays.

But you could say that for almost anycue. If someone has been using that cue for many of years.

dave

I think it's easy to become attached to a specific cue. The memories of certain kinds of shots and how they helped you to win become ingrained. The feel of the cue in your hands, it's weight, balance, the sound when the cue ball is struck softly, or when it's spun, the feel when powering the cue ball with a solid centerball hit, or when struck firmly with a fair amount of english and the pingy sound that may come from it at that moment, the degree of squirt it produces, all these things can become very comforting and predictable. If someone becomes addicted to how a cue plays, losing it can play havoc with a person's game, IMHO. For that reason, it makes sense to have more than one cue and shaft that a person likes to play with. I've seen some guys actually kiss their ugly cue when potting certain shots. Granted, they love their cue! If I had a cue like that, I'd sure not want my opponents to find out what it meant to me. Some nasty people out there...

Flex
 
Please respond Mr Ronoh

Ronoh said:
I'm one.
O.K.


"A question like that could be interpreted in a few unscruplious ways, so I choose not to answer. No offense, just being cautious." Ronoh ***could be interpreted as unscrupulous but no offense??? YEAH RIGHT! Since you posted your deep conspiracy theory thoughts on a public forum how about explaining them on here also? I didnt ask for anyones specific cue info,location or anything personal other than their thoughts on a subject.How the hell is that unscrupulous?Mike S.
 
whiteoak said:
Ronoh said:
I'm one.
O.K.


"A question like that could be interpreted in a few unscruplious ways, so I choose not to answer. No offense, just being cautious." Ronoh ***could be interpreted as unscrupulous but no offense??? YEAH RIGHT! Since you posted your deep conspiracy theory thoughts on a public forum how about explaining them on here also? I didnt ask for anyones specific cue info,location or anything personal other than their thoughts on a subject.How the hell is that unscrupulous?Mike S.
Shhh! They might be listening.
 
More importantly?

If you had irreplaceable cues, whether it be a Gina, Weston, Bushka, or others, especially having multiple irreplacable cues, and they were stolen, but you had good insurance on them, how in the world could you ever come to an agreement with your insurance company about replacement costs (for example, bought $1800 Gina 12 years ago, now valued at $3200), let alone
go about trying to replace it.

This, to me, seems like a nightmare of the biggest proporations. Has anyone been in a situation like this? And how did it work out for you?

Which brings another question to light, should you have your precious cues
valued at different intervals in time, to stay current with their value, and have actual documentation as to it?
 
whiteoak said:
How many AZBers have an "irreplacable cue" as your main player?By irreplacable i mean a rare cue(special cue by retired or deceased cuemaker,rare titlest conversion,etc) that literally cant be replaced exactly.I think a cue that coundnt be replaced for sentimental reasons qualifies also.If so do you cease to carry it as your main playing cue or instead feel more strongly about continueing to use it because of your history and familiarity with it?Mike S

I do have a cue that's irreplacable. And I used to use it as my break cue. It's my old Oak Merry Widow Schuler Cue. Oak was Ray's favorite playing wood, which is why you see an abnormal amount of Oak in the Schuler line.

His widow, Cathy, signed that cue for me in the place where normally Ray would have. She has never signed a cue before, and never been asked to before, and since she's completely separate now from the cue building facility, there's no reason to think she ever will again.

Thanks Cathy,

Fred
 
I've got a Mottey, Bender, two Scruggs, Kikel & an Olney
and they're all great but I love my 25 year old Meucci Diamond
that he took his time and made for me. Original tip & ferrule,
dead straight, and a great one pocket stick.
 
I have a Schon SP # 15 that I bought when I was in college in the early 80's for $300 that I wont sell and cant be replaced in my book. And my Phillipi that I have been playing for the last several years can't be replaced. The hit on it is tremendous and I have won more tourny's with that cue than any other cue I have ever shot with it.

I figure that once you find a cue whose hit get's into your blood and it seems to be a natural part of you when your stroking, then that cue becomes impossible to replace.
 
whiteoak said:
Ronoh said:
I'm one.
O.K.


"A question like that could be interpreted in a few unscruplious ways, so I choose not to answer. No offense, just being cautious." Ronoh ***could be interpreted as unscrupulous but no offense??? YEAH RIGHT! Since you posted your deep conspiracy theory thoughts on a public forum how about explaining them on here also? I didnt ask for anyones specific cue info,location or anything personal other than their thoughts on a subject.How the hell is that unscrupulous?Mike S.

Perhaps given the recent theft of a large and very valuable cue collection an AZer posted about, he was suggesting answering that specific question could allow someone to interpret the answer as ..."he has an irrereplaceable cue he carries (or doesn't carry) around with him, and he would be an easier target than some." If someone on AZ knows Ronoh personally, that kind of information is a bit revealing.

There was speculation in the thread about the cue collection theft that what was taken (valuable cues) suggested it wasn't random and perhaps someone knew what was going to be there and went after the cues specifically.

I don't think Ronoh was suggesting you were unscrupulous Mike.

Kelly
 
Snapshot9 said:
If you had irreplaceable cues, whether it be a Gina, Weston, Bushka, or others, especially having multiple irreplacable cues, and they were stolen, but you had good insurance on them, how in the world could you ever come to an agreement with your insurance company about replacement costs (for example, bought $1800 Gina 12 years ago, now valued at $3200), let alone
go about trying to replace it.

This, to me, seems like a nightmare of the biggest proporations. Has anyone been in a situation like this? And how did it work out for you?

Which brings another question to light, should you have your precious cues
valued at different intervals in time, to stay current with their value, and have actual documentation as to it?

I have never been in that situation, but maybe if the maker is still alive, the owner would request the insurance company to contact the maker with details of the cue and ask for a value if there is a dispute of the value. If the maker is otherwise not available, some of the names who authenticate cues or who are regarded as those who can give an expert opinion might suggest the value of the cue.
Kelly
 
Insuring high $$$ property / cues

Kelly_Guy said:
I have never been in that situation, but maybe if the maker is still alive, the owner would request the insurance company to contact the maker with details of the cue and ask for a value if there is a dispute of the value. If the maker is otherwise not available, some of the names who authenticate cues or who are regarded as those who can give an expert opinion might suggest the value of the cue.
Kelly

Good points Kelly. Hope I'm not too far off topic. Would like to add that there are two broad forms of property insurance:
Standard Coverage - pays you for the depreciated value only. Depreciated value leaves a LOT of wiggle room for your insurance company to haggle over the settlement.

Replacement Value Coverage - pays you the exact cost to replace the lost item. No negotiation = much better settlement for brand new item for very little extra premium cost.

For example if you wreck your 1991 Cadillac, standard insurance pays you $800. Replacement Coverage would pay you $41,000 (current cost) for a new Cadillac. I know we're talking cues here but everyone should understand the BIG difference it can make in say your homeowners coverage.

Cheers- Jigger
 
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