The 1 in the Side break with 15 balls, HOW?

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fxskater

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Ok i know that the one in the side break is not that great for 9-ball, but it is very usefull in other games. In rotation when efren ran 5 racks, he had to call the 1 in the side on each break. So here are a few questions:
Why don't people use this as an opening break in straight pool? I figure if you could make it more than 50% it would be worth trying.
Why don't people use this break for Eight Ball? all you gotta do is make 1, why not the 1 in the side?
Why isn't this break used more often?
How do you execute this break shot? In 'The Great Break Shot' it shows a 1 in the side break for 10 ball only, will this method work with 15 balls racked there? or 9 balls racked there?

If i can learn the 1 in the side break before Vegas i think this would give me a pretty good advantage in 8 ball.
 
I play it with top outside from about the corner of the break-box and aim for a full hit on the head ball. I rarely have occasion to use it though. If I have the 13 and the break at Herrigan I will definitely use it. I also used it to win an old straight pool hustle. I bet a guy twice as good as me a straight pool game where I go to 5 in one side and he goes to 100 in any pocket. He knew it was a hustle also and we both knew the better player will usually win. But I offered to play it with the stipulation that I break. I broke the head ball in the side and proceeded to make 3 more in that side, eventually winning that game.
 
i think in straight pool its too dangerous because you risk leaving your opponent an easy run if you miss.
 
fxskater said:
Why don't people use this break for Eight Ball? all you gotta do is make 1, why not the 1 in the side? Why isn't this break used more often?
How do you execute this break shot? In 'The Great Break Shot' book, it shows a 1 in the side break, for 10 ball only, will this method work with 15 balls racked there? or 9 balls racked there?

If I can learn the 1 in the side break before Vegas I think this would give me a pretty good advantage in 8 ball.
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The lead ball-side pocket break shot is more or less the same for any of these breaks, because of physics. You have a backstop of balls, so you can squezze-bank the 1 ball off the rack. The closer you get to the longstring, the further up the rail the 1 ball will travel.

However, the closer you place the cueball to the longstring, the more draw you have to put on the cueball, to get it away from the rebounding 1 ball.
 
Thanks Brian, the two rail bank method I'm sure will really help me visualize this shot. Thanks!! GREAT INFO!!
 
fxskater said:
Ok i know that the one in the side break is not that great for 9-ball, but it is very usefull in other games. In rotation when efren ran 5 racks, he had to call the 1 in the side on each break. So here are a few questions:
Why don't people use this as an opening break in straight pool? I figure if you could make it more than 50% it would be worth trying.
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I think the 50% is the problem. I broke 100 racks while working on my break a couple years ago. Made the one in the side 31 times but was really focusing on the corner ball. I'm sure some practice could get that up to about 40% but I'll bet it would be really tough to get around that 50% mark.

I am tempted to try it in straight pool against a weaker opponent sometime!
Unless you have a really nice rack it is hard to make a good safe rack so maybe offensive is the way to go.

Andy
 
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