The accidental shark

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Thunderball

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Just felt like posting a short and true scenerio for you guys.

In this instance I was the accidental shark....well perhaps not accidental,just not intended even if it MUST have seemed so.

I was playing an apa 8ball six.I'm a five who leans towards six I suppose (been there for a short while if that helps) so it was a close match.I was on the hill he needed two more.He left the 8 ball pertty close to straight in and just about three feet out.

This ball was money imo so I did (without thinking) what I would do in most instances.... I went to retrieve balls and concede the game.

I should mention some beers were consumed,so don't right me off as a complete idiot...just a slightly intoxicated idiot.

Anywho he's in his backstroke and focused and I approach the table and start pulling balls out of the corner pocket and then I remember what I have always coached....NEVER EVER concede a game winning shot or run for that matter.So I freeze.Two balls in my hand standing at the table.He never stopped with the backstroke,but I knew dam well he saw me....he was probably thinking all kinds of stuff by then...liked why I came to the table?Conceding or not??...and most probably WTF?? when I froze.

I still expected him to play it....but he missed it.I felt like a horses ass.

Now being the co captian and this teams original captian for many years I have some weight opinion wise.I stopped the score keepers before they scored the win.

After a brief discussion we decided to start it again (after all,he might have missed it) innings be damned and the winner of that game would get the win mark.

Turned out to be me but not my proudest moment by any strectch.

Anyone one else been an accidental horses ass?
 
I have a really good feeling that many people will tell you that you should have absolutely given him the game instantly. After all if unscrewing your cue is a legal concession then actually picking up balls would be a consession as well. Unbelievable.
 
You may be right luxury.It did seem like an honest solution to a problem I created....and fwiw it worked for all parties.

The thing is we practice all the time so he would expect me to concede that one shot...what he wouldn't expect me to do is freeze as though a was sharking him....but he knows I wouldn't do it with reall intention.Its just not my style and he knew it.
 
Luxury said:
I have a really good feeling that many people will tell you that you should have absolutely given him the game instantly.
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I agree, you can't start to concede a game, get as far as picking up balls, and then not concede the game. I think the only fair thing to do, when he missed the 8-ball, is grab it and rack, since you had already started the process of doing that. APA rules don't allow conceding games to my knowledge, but that would have been the fair way to proceed.

-Andrew
 
Arghh...i know.I f'ed it up.Wasn't thinking at all.
The conversation started with me telling him it was him game.We ended up settling on the replay because he knew its not how I play the game.

Probably should have insisted he take the win though.
 
Hey I commend you for being willing to admit it was a mistake not to give him the game and by the way I have made worse mistakes and decisions that I regret. You may consider telling him later that you do believe you should have given him the game.

I recently saw an instance where my friend who always concedes jumped up to rack then analyzed the difficulty of the shot then told the guy to go ahead and shoot it. The guy said, "You are going to make me shoot after doing all that?" My friend realized he was wrong and conceded the game.

I never concede and just 2 weeks ago won a hill-hill match because he dogged a very easy 8ball. He went on and on about how I didn't have class and should have conceded the match. I had stayed glued in my chair until he missed too!

I ended up telling him the only thing that was unclassy was him going on and on about my lack of class and having to shoot a missable ball.
 
APA rules state that if you reach for the rack before the balls stop rolling- you lose that game; do it twice and you lose the match. I imagine that grabbing pocketed balls would go along those same lines.

If I was you, it would have been his game. Period.
 
Luxury said:
I have a really good feeling that many people will tell you that you should have absolutely given him the game instantly. After all if unscrewing your cue is a legal concession then actually picking up balls would be a consession as well. Unbelievable.
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I TOTALLY AGREE
 
I if he would not take the concede offered after that ,then I would have just gave him ball in hand the next shot , game over , next game.
 
well for what it is worth, you never leave your seat till the shooting done, you in picking up ball lose the game, you should be the man and admit you made a mistake, but you people that drink and think you are pool players i have no respect for eather drink of shoot pool you cant do both and be good!!!!STICK p. s. I speak from experance!!!!
 
Luxury said:
I have a really good feeling that many people will tell you that you should have absolutely given him the game instantly. After all if unscrewing your cue is a legal concession then actually picking up balls would be a consession as well. Unbelievable.
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Absolutely agree. You should have given him the game immediately.

Under world standard rules, by not conceding the game and picking up the balls while the game was "live" ,you technically should have been called for unsportsmanlike conduct with possible forfeit of match, not just game.

I think players, including me, get too casual about these things in "friendly" games and then do the same things in a match situation and think it's OK. It is really best to know all the rules and play by them all the time so it a habit and not an exception.
 
Luxury said:
I have a really good feeling that many people will tell you that you should have absolutely given him the game instantly. After all if unscrewing your cue is a legal concession then actually picking up balls would be a consession as well. Unbelievable.
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Unscrewing your cue is only a concession if your opponent is on the hill and at the table shooting. Rule 1.14
 
Hail Mary Shot said:
Word of advice, don't get intoxicated ! :D
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That's the worst advice I have ever heard, and I have never taken it!!!

However, I hate drinking when I play pool. IIt takes the fun out of the game. I also don't like to drink after a big win. I do like to celebrate, but I like to remember and savor my victories. Don't think I won't buy you a drink though. :)

OP, you definitely conceded the game when you stood up in my book. As soon as you stand up and walk towards the table it's over. I'm glad everyone was agreeable to it though, kudos to all parties on that.
 
getting intoxicated while playing in tournaments tends to get you forget certain things. though I must admit that I play much better and loose when I drink a single mug and seems to remove the tension out of me playing. but too much of it gets you to play shitty pool or sleep on the table and even while sitting in your chair during a match. :D
 
At your level I can't believe you even asked the question.
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The question was not should I have conceded the game.I readily admitted I had a pretty serious mental malfunction and it should have been conceded.My opponent would hear none of that (known him for years) so we settled on a "do over".

The question was:

Has anyone ever effected the the play at the table by being careless (or otherwise stupid in my case) when it wasn't your turn at the table?

I figured I share a rather shameful experience of my own to get the thread going was all.
 
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