The BRITISH Invasion

Desmondp

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We've had the Asian invasion and the European invasion into pool, now i think we are in the middle of a British invasion into the top echelons of pool

It's already started with Darren Appleton, Karl Boyes and Darryl Peach amongst others but there has been a change in the UK pool scene which is going to lead to more talent switching cuesports

Firstly the GB9 9ball tour in england has really started to take off and secondly, the decline of english style pool. Both Darren and Karl came from the World rules english pool world, Darren was one of the top players for a decade. You know the game played on smaller tables with those small red and yellow balls. It's actually the game i play most. Whilst it looks easy, it is not, the pockets are tiny compared to american 9ball tables and you need really precise cueball control to manoveur around 15 balls on a small table. Most of the top players play a bit of snooker too, so potting is not problem, even when going onto the bigger 9ball tables.

And one advantage that players having switching from this type of pool to american pool over snooker players switchin to american pool is the break. You need a good break for english pool and it translates well with some adjustment to american pool.

Chris Melling and Mick Hill are two double world champions in the english pool game who are starting to play more american pool. Both have monster breaks. Chris has already done quite well, having a good showing at the world championships a few weeks ago. I feel Chris and Mick have the best chance of reaching the heights of Darren and Karl in the next few years. Always takes a while to lean the nuiances of a new game even if you do have the cueing fundamentals.

Anyway if the decline of english pool continues in england and 9ball continues to grow, your going to see a lot of talent come onto the global scene. England are good at indoor sports because the weather's so shite :D

And with snooker heavily established in england (when i say england, i should really say Britain), your going to see technically sound cueists playing 9ball and the knowledge of the older players will start to filter down to give them more of an all round game (your Imran Majids etc)

It's going to be an interesting next few years in the pool world and american players will have to lift their game if they want to retain any level of dominance.
 
We've had the Asian invasion and the European invasion into pool, now i think we are in the middle of a British invasion into the top echelons of pool

It's already started with Darren Appleton, Karl Boyes and Darryl Peach amongst others but there has been a change in the UK pool scene which is going to lead to more talent switching cuesports

Firstly the GB9 9ball tour in england has really started to take off and secondly, the decline of english style pool. Both Darren and Karl came from the World rules english pool world, Darren was one of the top players for a decade. You know the game played on smaller tables with those small red and yellow balls. It's actually the game i play most. Whilst it looks easy, it is not, the pockets are tiny compared to american 9ball tables and you need really precise cueball control to manoveur around 15 balls on a small table. Most of the top players play a bit of snooker too, so potting is not problem, even when going onto the bigger 9ball tables.

And one advantage that players having switching from this type of pool to american pool over snooker players switchin to american pool is the break. You need a good break for english pool and it translates well with some adjustment to american pool.

Chris Melling and Mick Hill are two double world champions in the english pool game who are starting to play more american pool. Both have monster breaks. Chris has already done quite well, having a good showing at the world championships a few weeks ago. I feel Chris and Mick have the best chance of reaching the heights of Darren and Karl in the next few years. Always takes a while to lean the nuiances of a new game even if you do have the cueing fundamentals.

Anyway if the decline of english pool continues in england and 9ball continues to grow, your going to see a lot of talent come onto the global scene. England are good at indoor sports because the weather's so shite :D

And with snooker heavily established in england (when i say england, i should really say Britain), your going to see technically sound cueists playing 9ball and the knowledge of the older players will start to filter down to give them more of an all round game (your Imran Majids etc)

It's going to be an interesting next few years in the pool world and american players will have to lift their game if they want to retain any level of dominance.

You failed to mention Melling winning the China Open a month ago or so.


"American.... dominance"? you been playing with that time machine again?
 
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I think Chris Melling is already up there,Winning the china open and euro tour event,Looks like he will be in mosconi cup this year also:smile:
 
That would be awesome if he is in the Mosconi cup team

Karl, Darren and Chris, that's half the team from the old WEPF !
 
If Ronnie O'sullivan decides to come over here and play regularly, y'all better just quit. There is no point of playing because he'll crush any record Efren, Earl, captian hook or Johnny has. O'sullivan is hands down the best ball pocketer in the world. Seriously though, no one (well, very few anyway )would have a chance...
 
If Ronnie O'sullivan decides to come over here and play regularly, y'all better just quit. There is no point of playing because he'll crush any record Efren, Earl, captian hook or Johnny has. O'sullivan is hands down the best ball pocketer in the world. Seriously though, no one (well, very few anyway )would have a chance...

Not sure about that. I think Stalev is a better potter than O'Sullivan as long as you are talking about shotmaking. Looks like for you pool is only shotmaking.
 
If Ronnie O'sullivan decides to come over here and play regularly, y'all better just quit. There is no point of playing because he'll crush any record Efren, Earl, captian hook or Johnny has. O'sullivan is hands down the best ball pocketer in the world. Seriously though, no one (well, very few anyway )would have a chance...

Man I Ronnie is the most talented snooker player but the truth is technically pool requires much more than snooker ( jump , masse , break shot ..etc ) it means a snooker player really needs time and efforts to become a world class pool player .

About ball pocketer , there are COUNTLESS AMOUNT of pool players ( amateurs included ) are capable of play 2 - 3 hours and doesn't miss a ball , so it is not about pocket the ball here .

I don't say he can't become a top pool player , but to beat the likes of Efren, Busti, Alex, SVB , Wu, Orcullo, Souquet... I take all the bets lol.

For others British, Darren is in top 20 , sorry but Peach and Boyes are only top 40 .

There is a rumor that when Darren won the 10-ball world champion, SVB came and asked him to play a match money for 20k . And Darren refused to play . ;)
 
Not sure about that. I think Stalev is a better potter than O'Sullivan as long as you are talking about shotmaking. Looks like for you pool is only shotmaking.

Obviously you've never seen Ronnie play and your assumption is not very well thought out. Of course there is more to pool than shot making! Jeez man, wake up!

"Looks like for you pool is only shotmaking." <---- that was stupid, bro.
 
Obviously you've never seen Ronnie play and your assumption is not very well thought out. Of course there is more to pool than shot making! Jeez man, wake up!

"Looks like for you pool is only shotmaking." <---- that was stupid, bro.

I watch snooker regularly ( eurosport put on air almost every snooker tournament) and there is no need to be rude. Stay quiet.
 
If Ronnie O'sullivan decides to come over here and play regularly, y'all better just quit. There is no point of playing because he'll crush any record Efren, Earl, captian hook or Johnny has. O'sullivan is hands down the best ball pocketer in the world. Seriously though, no one (well, very few anyway )would have a chance...

Ronnie O'Sullivan did take a shot competing in the IPT (International Pool Tour), probably because at that time the payouts were strong. I do remember seeing him in Vegas. He had a whole entourage around him, to include a personal assistant. He pocketed a cool 10 dimes for his Vegas experience: Ronnie O'Sullivan's IPT bio.
 
If Ronnie O'sullivan decides to come over here and play regularly, y'all better just quit. There is no point of playing because he'll crush any record Efren, Earl, captian hook or Johnny has. O'sullivan is hands down the best ball pocketer in the world. Seriously though, no one (well, very few anyway )would have a chance...

Do you watch snooker at all? O'Sullivan's strong suit is his scoring and positional play, not his shotmaking. Unless by "ball pocketer" you meant he just pockets more balls, which he most likely does when he's on his game, but that's down to his cue ball control rather than pure shotmaking ability; that aspect of his game has declined significantly in recent years.

He's also 35 years old, which is a little late to start a pool career and break all records in the game. His break is also nowhere near where it would need to be, or at least it wasn't the last time I saw him play.

O'Sullivan is a great snooker player, and could still be a very good pool player if he took it up seriously, but realistically it's hard enough to get him to take snooker seriously. To suggest that if he had the inclination he would just shatter all records in pool and dominate the game....well it smacks of trolling, really.
 
Do you watch snooker at all? O'Sullivan's strong suit is his scoring and positional play, not his shotmaking. Unless by "ball pocketer" you meant he just pockets more balls, which he most likely does when he's on his game, but that's down to his cue ball control rather than pure shotmaking ability; that aspect of his game has declined significantly in recent years.

He's also 35 years old, which is a little late to start a pool career and break all records in the game. His break is also nowhere near where it would need to be, or at least it wasn't the last time I saw him play.

O'Sullivan is a great snooker player, and could still be a very good pool player if he took it up seriously, but realistically it's hard enough to get him to take snooker seriously. To suggest that if he had the inclination he would just shatter all records in pool and dominate the game....well it smacks of trolling, really.

Typical ignorance I heard this all the time " if O'sullivan takes pool seriously he beats everyone" you read this type of comments on YouTube by users that probably have a 8 snooker break and think they could dominate pool. But there are knowledgeable snooker players that know a little better. I don't say Ronnie hasn't got the talent to dominate pool if he started to play the game in his youth but this " Ronnie o'sullivan= greatest pool player" nonsense is bs.
 
We've had the Asian invasion and the European invasion into pool, now i think we are in the middle of a British invasion into the top echelons of pool

It's already started with Darren Appleton, Karl Boyes and Darryl Peach amongst others but there has been a change in the UK pool scene which is going to lead to more talent switching cuesports

Firstly the GB9 9ball tour in england has really started to take off and secondly, the decline of english style pool. Both Darren and Karl came from the World rules english pool world, Darren was one of the top players for a decade. You know the game played on smaller tables with those small red and yellow balls. It's actually the game i play most. Whilst it looks easy, it is not, the pockets are tiny compared to american 9ball tables and you need really precise cueball control to manoveur around 15 balls on a small table. Most of the top players play a bit of snooker too, so potting is not problem, even when going onto the bigger 9ball tables.

And one advantage that players having switching from this type of pool to american pool over snooker players switchin to american pool is the break. You need a good break for english pool and it translates well with some adjustment to american pool.

Chris Melling and Mick Hill are two double world champions in the english pool game who are starting to play more american pool. Both have monster breaks. Chris has already done quite well, having a good showing at the world championships a few weeks ago. I feel Chris and Mick have the best chance of reaching the heights of Darren and Karl in the next few years. Always takes a while to lean the nuiances of a new game even if you do have the cueing fundamentals.

Anyway if the decline of english pool continues in england and 9ball continues to grow, your going to see a lot of talent come onto the global scene. England are good at indoor sports because the weather's so shite :D

And with snooker heavily established in england (when i say england, i should really say Britain), your going to see technically sound cueists playing 9ball and the knowledge of the older players will start to filter down to give them more of an all round game (your Imran Majids etc)

It's going to be an interesting next few years in the pool world and american players will have to lift their game if they want to retain any level of dominance.

I'm surprised you think american pool is gaining in popularity over here. All I ever see are 'little girls pool' players, with next to no interest in 9 ball. I doubt there are many more than 400 serious players in the entire country, including the jocks & taffs.
 
As a Brit, I have to say that Ronnie is an absolute god when he is in the mood on a snooker table. I saw him play a few times back home and seeing what he could do on a match table was ridiculous.

That being said pool is a very different sport. Yes, he would pot balls all day long, however as has been mentioned there are many other aspects to pool that he would have to learn pretty much from scratch. At this point, he would be competitive at pro pool and after a year or two might win or finish high in a few big events, but I think it is a little late in his career for him to get to a level where he would dominate.

This is an interesting old article on his thoughts on pool: -
http://www.btinternet.com/~clp1000/phil/a_week.htm
 
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