Perhaps because some people appreciate good pool? Nobody is saying earl isn't a great player. Being a great player does NOT equate being good for pool, though, which is the point you've missed entirely. Players watch earl because he's good. Non-players could care less because he's a dick.Rick S. said:OK, tell me WHY there is a full house everytime he plays? If he's so hated, and looked down upon? Must be a reason, don't ya' think??
And how many train-wreck "reality" shows are here today, gone tomorrow? For every "Survivor", there are 20 shows like "Chaotic." Where do you think earl fits in?Rick S. said:Ask any of the big boyz (promoters)....he's the biggest draw on the PLANET, bar none. They'd LOVE it if there were 10 Earls......
Who the hell wants to watch some robot run racks, Expressionless, emotionless, dull, BORING ass 9 ball?? Not me.....
Reality TV, nowadays that's where it's at. Capturing 80% of the nightly viewers.
No doubt. An element that helped destroy the CPBT, an element which turns even his die-hard fans sour, and an element which blinds his die-harder fans to the fact that men's pool is languishing in large part due to earl. You're right, earl adds an element to pool nobody else has.Rick S. said:Earl adds an element to pool, nobody else has.
So earl's actions should be excused because he's good at the game? I ask again, if earl pulled the same crap at your workplace, would you put up with it?Rick S. said:Like him or not, he's the Greatest 9 Ball player of all time. Sit back and enjoy watching him while you can. There may never be another to match Earl's accomplishments, and awards.
Rick S.
DoomCue said:Perhaps because some people appreciate good pool? Nobody is saying earl isn't a great player. Being a great player does NOT equate being good for pool, though, which is the point you've missed entirely. Players watch earl because he's good. Non-players could care less because he's a dick.
And how many train-wreck "reality" shows are here today, gone tomorrow? For every "Survivor", there are 20 shows like "Chaotic." Where do you think earl fits in?
No doubt. An element that helped destroy the CPBT, an element which turns even his die-hard fans sour, and an element which blinds his die-harder fans to the fact that men's pool is languishing in large part due to earl. You're right, earl adds an element to pool nobody else has.
So earl's actions should be excused because he's good at the game? I ask again, if earl pulled the same crap at your workplace, would you put up with it?
-djb
Tokyo-dave said:I have always come to the defense of Earl when I've come upon these bash Earl threads. I still think that he's one of the greatest players to have ever held a cue, and is probably the idol of many players today, and players of the future. I've always said that Earl was to pool what John M. (can't spell the name) was to tennis.
However, here's an interesting point to ponder. My wife and I watched the match with Souquet and she made the comment: "Who is that guy? Is he one of the pro players, or is he just one of those good amateurs that is having a good run? He kinda acts like those guys you played in the bar the last time we visited the states." My wife knows nothing about pool, doesn't know the players, and has never even touched a cue, and THAT is how Earl comes across to non-players who simply see him as he is without the knowledge of his history as a pro. Some say it really doesn't matter what the non-player thinks, but isn't it those non-players that the pro pool industry needs in order to make the sport bigger and more profitable so that the players can make a living? People that don't play baseball still watch baseball? The same with other sports too. However, not many non-players buy tickets to the local tour stop. Pool will never attract non playing spectators as long as the the scene at one of the greatest tournaments in the world looks no different than what you can see in a midwestern redneck bar on any given Saturday night. My wife, as well as most who don't know billiards, couldn't tell the difference.
I still idolize Earl, and he's probably my favorite player. However, my wife's comments made me think.
dave
DoomCue said:Perhaps because some people appreciate good pool? Nobody is saying earl isn't a great player. Being a great player does NOT equate being good for pool, though, which is the point you've missed entirely. Players watch earl because he's good. Non-players could care less because he's a dick.
And how many train-wreck "reality" shows are here today, gone tomorrow? For every "Survivor", there are 20 shows like "Chaotic." Where do you think earl fits in?
No doubt. An element that helped destroy the CPBT, an element which turns even his die-hard fans sour, and an element which blinds his die-harder fans to the fact that men's pool is languishing in large part due to earl. You're right, earl adds an element to pool nobody else has.
So earl's actions should be excused because he's good at the game? I ask again, if earl pulled the same crap at your workplace, would you put up with it?
Uh, every pro player in the same tournament with earl is in the same workplace. If you were in Ralf Souquet's shoes, would you put up with it? If you were in Michaela Tabb's, would you put up with it? If you were in Kunihiko Takahashi's, would you put up with it? If earl came to your workplace and pointed a cue in your face like he did to Okamura at the 2000 US Open, would you put up with it?Rick S. said:Workplace? What the hell does the workplace have to do with it? If my bus. was pool, damn right! I'd put up with it.
WTF?Rick S. said:Earl fits in the Star Wars category. The original was the best, with the 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 5th, 6th, 7th----20th not too far behind. Just like Earl, just another episode in 9 Ball history.
I didn't know you had to be a US Ambassador to be a decent person....Rick S. said:He's a pool player, not a freakin' U.S. Ambassador. That is what most people don't seem to understand. He does his job, and does it damn GOOD. That Sir, is playing POOL.
And whose fault is that?Rick S. said:There is no bigger name than 'Earl' in 9 ball.
Rick S. said:And how many train-wreck "reality" shows are here today, gone tomorrow? For every "Survivor", there are 20 shows like "Chaotic." Where do you think earl fits in?
No doubt. An element that helped destroy the CPBT, an element which turns even his die-hard fans sour, and an element which blinds his die-harder fans to the fact that men's pool is languishing in large part due to earl. You're right, earl adds an element to pool nobody else has.
So earl's actions should be excused because he's good at the game? I ask again, if earl pulled the same crap at your workplace, would you put up with it?
Rick S.
Rick S. said:If he's not good for pool....why do everyone come to see him? People come looking for ACTION...period. One form or another Earl supplies it. He's a walking-talking people ATTRACTION. He's like a magnet, pulling people in.
He's a pool player, not a freakin' U.S. Ambassador. That is what most people don't seem to understand. He does his job, and does it damn GOOD. That Sir, is playing POOL.
DoomCue said:Uh, every pro player in the same tournament with earl is in the same workplace. If you were in Ralf Souquet's shoes, would you put up with it? If you were in Michaela Tabb's, would you put up with it? If you were in Kunihiko Takahashi's, would you put up with it? If earl came to your workplace and pointed a cue in your face like he did to Okamura at the 2000 US Open, would you put up with it?
I didn't know you had to be a US Ambassador to be a decent person....
And whose fault is that?
-djb
Nice sidestep there. I asked if YOU would put up with it, not does Michaela put up with it. Pertaining Okamura, does your response mean it didn't happen, or that you won't admit that you wouldn't put up with it if it happened to you?Rick S. said:I think Michaela puts up with a couple times a year. As a matter of fact, I have talked w/her about Earl. She knows what she's up against, and to tell you the truth...I think she kinda likes him!
As far as the Okamura thing, I didn't see it. I can't comment on that one.
Actually, I have talked to earl. I found him to be a sincere, honest, funny person, AWAY FROM THE TABLE. As we all know, though, as soon as the competitive juices start flowing, his Hyde persona kicks in. If that was supposed to change my opinion of him, it didn't work. Got any more suggestions?Rick S. said:Earl is EARL. He's not changing whether you like it or not. You can whine, and cry all you like on this board about him. I don't give a damn. What does piss me off is you being the big man and talking shit about him and he can't defend himself.
He's in your neck of the woods, why don't you pull him aside one day and tell him how he's f'n up the pool world and YOUR life. Tell him in person how you really feel, and see how well that goes over.....IF you got the ballz??
Rick S.
9 Ball Girl said:I guess I'm in the minority here but I love Earl!