Back in the early mid 90's there wasn't his jump stick. It had a metal shaft with a plastic tic that I'd guess was around 17 mm? Wooden handle and total length about 12-14 inches. Could jump an in or closer ball. Was outlawed in most tourneys. I've asked quite a few people and most look at me like I have three heads lol. Couple remember but have no idea what called. One person told me it was called the " Frog ". Don't care about tourneys at all just want for gambling. Anybody have any idea what Im talking about lol?