The IPT Cloth - Will it be chaged?

[NaClBandit]

IMO, tight pockets are much more significant in separating players by ability than slow, unresponsive cloth is.

The nap cloth limits a player's aresenal of shots. They cannot use all of their "tricks" nearly as effectively (certain extreme english position shots, masse shots, throw shots...). The better player knows more of these techniques and uses them more adeptly, so where is the advantage lost?

On tight equipment, the better player will win more often regardless of the playing surface. So why take some of their options away? That's where much of the magic lies that we fans enjoy so much. There's a reason Simonis has been used almost exclusively over the past decade or two in pro tournaments: because the players prefer it and it plays better.

I've heard the rationale that inconsistencies in the nap cloth liken it to a golf course, making the players adapt their games. Imagine spreading pebbles on a bowling lane. I don't think the games can compare directly in that sense. The playing surfaces are immensely different in size and consistency (plus one is organic and thus more difficult to tailor). I think KT is taking this PGA model a little to far.

Bottom line though - KT is putting up the dough and my opinion means s**t. He makes the calls. I'll still argue that I'm right though, haha.

 

[Tbeaux]

IMO, tight pockets are much more significant in separating players by ability than slow, unresponsive cloth is.
Correct.

The nap cloth limits a player's aresenal of shots. They cannot use all of their "tricks" nearly as effectively (certain extreme english position shots, masse shots, throw shots...). The better player knows more of these techniques and uses them more adeptly, so where is the advantage lost?
Wrong, worsted cloth causes slides...it's smoother. Regular wool cloth pills and causes some problems. Shaved wool cloth plays the truest.

On tight equipment, the better player will win more often regardless of the playing surface. So why take some of their options away? That's where much of the magic lies that we fans enjoy so much. There's a reason Simonis has been used almost exclusively over the past decade or two in pro tournaments: because the players prefer it and it plays better.
Wrong, players were doing all the things your talking about long before fast Simonis came into wide spead use. It's mainly been used so much the past decade because Simonis puts up sponsorship money.

I've heard the rationale that inconsistencies in the nap cloth liken it to a golf course, making the players adapt their games. Imagine spreading pebbles on a bowling lane. I don't think the games can compare directly in that sense. The playing surfaces are immensely different in size and consistency (plus one is organic and thus more difficult to tailor). I think KT is taking this PGA model a little to far.
Maybe...we'll see.

Bottom line though - KT is putting up the dough and my opinion means s**t. He makes the calls. I'll still argue that I'm right though, haha.
Yup!

Terry<played on both. Have news for ya....all the deflection and other posts about the balls not doing what you think they should...all relate in some degree to fast cloth.

 

[trainer]

thanks BUD

Terry<played on both. Have news for ya....all the deflection and other posts about the balls not doing what you think they should...all relate in some degree to fast cloth.

Let's playsome and settle this ....You and Me any cloth any where!! Oh, you gotta bet somethin..
Terry O.

 

[NaClBandit]

Terry<played on both. Have news for ya....all the deflection and other posts about the balls not doing what you think they should...all relate in some degree to fast cloth.

What I was referring to as "sliding" (though my terminology may have been incorrect) is the english not gripping upon contact with the rails. I also played on the IPT clots and witnessed this first hand.