I get that. But I know that a 1500 seat arena like the one pictured could be a VERY imposing environment for anyone, with the "right" crowd. And far easier to arrange.
The Mosconi Cup - Much more than "Just a Pool Game" CJ Wiley
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I get that. But I know that a 1500 seat arena like the one pictured could be a VERY imposing environment for anyone, with the "right" crowd. And far easier to arrange.
Bruce,
Obviously you're correct. But it's not about admission tickets. The money for them is in the production rights & advertising. They could probably give away tickets in order to build the rivalry & the production entertainment value.
Of course you could do that, although I expect that even with free admission, it would be difficult to fill an 18,000 seat arena over 4 days.
But the devil is in the details....how do you pay for said arena, and the staff necessary to operate it, with no gate?
Sorry to poo poo your thought, Rick, cuz I like it. I just think that 1500 engaged fans in an environment like the one shown, would be awesome. And far more likely to succeed in all aspects. Do that a few times, successfully, and maybe you can move into a bigger venue.
If you noticed I didn't have a seat half the time, we had to share
This was the last year for the Mosconi Cup at York Hall. The new venue has over 1000 seats and they expect to sell it out before the event. York Hall sells out several months before the M.C. and there were no "scalpers" so there were literally no seats.
If you noticed I didn't have a seat half the time, we had to share with our "rooting section," and we only had 10 seats total.
This was the last year for the Mosconi Cup at York Hall. The new venue has over 1000 seats and they expect to sell it out before the event. York Hall sells out several months before the M.C. and there were no "scalpers" so there were literally no seats.
If you noticed I didn't have a seat half the time, we had to share with our "rooting section," and we only had 10 seats total.
CJ,
Again, you did a fine job & it was exciting!
Is the venus set for next year & if so where is it? Is it all in Matchroom's hands or does our 'team', captain, etc. have any input, formal or informal?
I think New Orleans might be a very good location that could bring fans from all around the country & possibly even the world. N.O. is a world famous tourists location with fine restaurants, Harrah's Casino, and Bourbon Street. Just keep the players locked up & sequestered.
Best Regards,
Again, you did a fine job & it was exciting!
Is the venus set for next year & if so where is it? Is it all in Matchroom's hands or does our 'team', captain, etc. have any input, formal or informal?
I think New Orleans might be a very good location that could bring fans from all around the country & possibly even the world. N.O. is a world famous tourists location with fine restaurants, Harrah's Casino, and Bourbon Street. Just keep the players locked up & sequestered.
Best Regards,
I haven't heard of any location other than Vegas. You may be right though, a regular city might be better if it was promoted properly.
It will probably be coordinated with another event in Vegas like a big APA or BCA event I would guess. A lot could happen between now and then in the world of pool.
I have the truest of respect for Mr Wiley and what he has contributed to the game.
Please allow me to disagree on the remark that Europeans prefer the cut break, they too hate it and wouldn't have any problem (in fact they too would prefer it) playing with a more regular form of braking.
It is a matter of discussion the whole thing with the playing format, but that's a whole different issue.
Congratulations again to both teams, they both showed the world some great pool!
Petros
Please allow me to disagree on the remark that Europeans prefer the cut break, they too hate it and wouldn't have any problem (in fact they too would prefer it) playing with a more regular form of braking.
It is a matter of discussion the whole thing with the playing format, but that's a whole different issue.
Congratulations again to both teams, they both showed the world some great pool!
Petros
CJ,
When did we get the news that they would use the cut break and, how come we had to accept that format for breaking the balls? This is not questioning any decisions you made. Just something I wanted to know!
Many Regards,
Lock N Load.
CJ -- what were your reasons for putting your rookie in more matches than any of your other players? He played in 7 matches while everyone else played in 6.
On the Euro side, that honor (7 matches instead of 6) went to their prospectively best player (Appleton).
it's brilliant competition in many ways with unusual twists, turns and triumphs.
I understand why in hindsight it looks unusual. The fact about the Mosconi Cup is you can't look 6 or 7 matches ahead regarding one person, you have to look 5 matches ahead regarding all 5 players. They make you use one player in each of the 5 match cycles.
The first match Brandon played was the last match on the first night. I knew my "top guns" would be tired and at that point couldn't guess who was playing well and who was "finding their game." Brandon is the youngest and judging by his attitude, practice form and age I thought he was prime to upset D.A.
The last match on the first night in my opinion is most likely to be volitile. The Key to the Mosconi Cup line ups is to keep your stength at the front of the cycles because that's where you need the momentum. If you noticed in Brandon's match the first night, if he won we were ahead 4/1 and if he lost we were still ahead 3/2 AND my other four players were next up in the singles "cycle".
I still think Brandon was just a slight underdog in that match, considering the short race and the placement of the match time. At the end of the day it's about making the best "educated guess" possible.
I saw many people before the Mosconi Cup saying Johnny wasn't "deserving" to be on the team. Who would have guessed he would play so well? I got the strong feeling he was at the top of his game, and still wouldn't have suspected he would play nearly flawless four days in a row.
That's the beauty and the irregular nature of the M.C., it's brilliant competition with unusual twists, turns and triumphs.
I understand why in hindsight it looks unusual. The fact about the Mosconi Cup is you can't look 6 or 7 matches ahead regarding one person, you have to look 5 matches ahead regarding all 5 players. They make you use one player in each of the 5 match cycles.
The first match Brandon played was the last match on the first night. I knew my "top guns" would be tired and at that point couldn't guess who was playing well and who was "finding their game." Brandon is the youngest and judging by his attitude, practice form and age I thought he was prime to upset D.A.
The last match on the first night in my opinion is most likely to be volitile. The Key to the Mosconi Cup line ups is to keep your stength at the front of the cycles because that's where you need the momentum. If you noticed in Brandon's match the first night, if he won we were ahead 4/1 and if he lost we were still ahead 3/2 AND my other four players were next up in the singles "cycle".
I still think Brandon was just a slight underdog in that match, considering the short race and the placement of the match time. At the end of the day it's about making the best "educated guess" possible.
I saw many people before the Mosconi Cup saying Johnny wasn't "deserving" to be on the team. Who would have guessed he would play so well? I got the strong feeling he was at the top of his game, and still wouldn't have suspected he would play nearly flawless four days in a row.
That's the beauty and the irregular nature of the M.C., it's brilliant competition with unusual twists, turns and triumphs.
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The game is about precision, pace and confidence, sometimes they fall out of line
Yes, the only physical difference I saw was the other players had one shaft they were committed to. Mike was trying to decide between three different shafts and then said he was playing with his "break cue". All I can do is make suggestions, but I know it's important to me to only use one shaft that I would "bet my life on."
The critical factor of the Mosconi Cup is it only takes a couple of "unusual" misses to get in your head. The fans will chide you about misses MUCH more than a player has ever been exposed to. Usually it's just our own "voice in the head" nagging about missing.
At the Mosconi Cup they'll yell out "don't miss like last time," and laugh like they made the funniest joke. I know Mike is a Champion player and The Team told him we've experienced moments of "forgetting how to play". I'm not sure how to get out of that mode the quickest, maybe just go run around the block, change shafts, brush your teeth....who knows?
I know I"ve had some moments where the game looked like "Greek math" and It was usually a result of an equipment malfunction. Sometimes a tip will get loose or a shaft deflects the ball in an unpredictable way and it throws you for a "mental loop". The game is about precision, pace and confidence. Sometimes they fall out of "alignment".
Yes, the only physical difference I saw was the other players had one shaft they were committed to. Mike was trying to decide between three different shafts and then said he was playing with his "break cue". All I can do is make suggestions, but I know it's important to me to only use one shaft that I would "bet my life on."
The critical factor of the Mosconi Cup is it only takes a couple of "unusual" misses to get in your head. The fans will chide you about misses MUCH more than a player has ever been exposed to. Usually it's just our own "voice in the head" nagging about missing.
At the Mosconi Cup they'll yell out "don't miss like last time," and laugh like they made the funniest joke. I know Mike is a Champion player and The Team told him we've experienced moments of "forgetting how to play". I'm not sure how to get out of that mode the quickest, maybe just go run around the block, change shafts, brush your teeth....who knows?
I know I"ve had some moments where the game looked like "Greek math" and It was usually a result of an equipment malfunction. Sometimes a tip will get loose or a shaft deflects the ball in an unpredictable way and it throws you for a "mental loop". The game is about precision, pace and confidence. Sometimes they fall out of "alignment".
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Dechaine's Mosconi Cup match record:
2012: 0-2 in singles, 1-2 in doubles, 1-0 in Team match, 2-4 total
2011: 1-1 in singles, 0-2 in doubles, 0-1 in Team match, 1-4 total
Two-year total: 1-3 in singles, 1-4 in doubles, 1-1 in Team match, 3-8 total
2011: 1-1 in singles, 0-2 in doubles, 0-1 in Team match, 1-4 total
Two-year total: 1-3 in singles, 1-4 in doubles, 1-1 in Team match, 3-8 total
Or, if you count half a point for each player in a doubles win or loss, and one-fifth of a point for each player in the team match, his record is as follows:
2012: 0.7 - 3.0
2011: 1.0 - 2.2
Total: 1.7 - 5.2
2011: 1.0 - 2.2
Total: 1.7 - 5.2
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Pressure is not an "exact science"
*physical difference...LoL (Freudian slip)...By the way, just to be fair, Mike had no negative effect on any other members. We all treated each other like we were playing well, and what happened to Mike could have happened to anyone. Johnny said he's had it happen to him and I've experienced times that the game seemed next to "impossible". Pressure is not an "exact science".
Mike will become a better player as a result and I will bet he's the Mosconi Cup MVP sometime in the next 10 years. Remember, he's almost 20 years younger than Johnny and Dennis.
CJ,
Nice job on the MC. I thought you handled the daily picks with strategery. Not as easy as people may want to believe..
Came up a little short but hats off to you and the team.
It truly was a great effort. I hadn't enjoyed watching pool any more than I did on the final day come back
Nice job on the MC. I thought you handled the daily picks with strategery. Not as easy as people may want to believe..
Came up a little short but hats off to you and the team.
It truly was a great effort. I hadn't enjoyed watching pool any more than I did on the final day come back
*physical difference...LoL (Freudian slip
Mike will become a better player as a result and I will bet he's the Mosconi Cup MVP sometime in the next 10 years. Remember, he's almost 20 years younger than Johnny and Dennis.
*physical difference...LoL (Freudian slip
Mike will become a better player as a result and I will bet he's the Mosconi Cup MVP sometime in the next 10 years. Remember, he's almost 20 years younger than Johnny and Dennis.
Hi CJ,
We've had a somewhat heated thread regarding 'skid' while you were away. Do you think there is any type of shot properly or improperly hit that can cause or contribute to 'skid' or do you feel it is only an equipment condition such as chalk getting between the contact point?
Can a poorly struck shot that gets the CB bouncing into the OB or a certain spin to speed ratio shot cause a slight 'skid'?
Do you feel that they happen more or less on the newer cloth vs the older thicker slower cloth?
Best Regards & thanks in advance for you experienced opinions,