The return of It's George Cues?

toomanybugs said:
Is this for real? I would have thought, I would have heard about this here first?

http://cgi.ebay.com/Its-George-Cust...ryZ21212QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Bugs :D
Click to expand...

Bugs, I would almost be willing to bet that these cues are not made in the USA like the Orginals. I suspect that they are made by Kao Kao in China like many other cues. Look at the user name of the eBay seller, Gulyassy, could this be Mike Gulyassy the inventor of the Sledgehammer Jump break?

To me if the cues are made in China, they will never attain the value of the Old Its-George cues whcih were made in the USA by a Famous cue maker.

Just somes thoughts on the subject
 
Well mike Roberts was part of the original It's George alons with Wayne Anderson of Bella Serra before Bill Schick joined the group. It would suprise me if it was made overseas by looking at the linen phenolic used throughout.. And the ebay feedback is all from 2004 and states that other cues had been ordered ... this could be interesting

Looking at the quality of grain in the wood I kinda have an idea of who may be making them for him if not himself
 
It's George

Saw this thread on the 24th It,s George #001

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

I have just received an It's George Playing cue from Mike Roberts. It is a reborn line of cues he made back in the late 80's. This cue is a Cocobolo cue with 4 veneers around 4 Cocobolo points with a double Ivory spear in the middle. The butt sleeve is the same with larger double spears and a diamond in the middle. It comes with 2 shafts (12.9) and Ivory ferrule with m. Moori tips. I will be dealing these cues with Mike Roberts and they will all be numbered and registered, and will come with a certificate of authenticity. I will post pictures this week of this cue to be viewed on my web site (www.babysproshop.com).
Mike Gulyassy
 
cue

Mike Gullyassy was the one that was behind the Its George jump cues and i have benn told the cues have been reborn, but i did not no he was behind these.
Thanx, Ron
 
bill schick

daytonajoe said:
Well mike Roberts was part of the original It's George alons with Wayne Anderson of Bella Serra before Bill Schick joined the group. It would suprise me if it was made overseas by looking at the linen phenolic used throughout.. And the ebay feedback is all from 2004 and states that other cues had been ordered ... this could be interesting

Looking at the quality of grain in the wood I kinda have an idea of who may be making them for him if not himself
Click to expand...

ive came across more than a few its george cues in my time. i have talked to bill schick face to face on the matter. he told me he never made a cue for its george. he was hired to teach thier "top" case makers how to make cues. to compete with other case makers that were starting to make cues also. infact he said the only time he did anything on an its george cue was put the logo on the first 12 cues bc they didnt have their press yet.
 
dave sutton said:
ive came across more than a few its george cues in my time. i have talked to bill schick face to face on the matter. he told me he never made a cue for its george. he was hired to teach thier "top" case makers how to make cues. to compete with other case makers that were starting to make cues also. infact he said the only time he did anything on an its george cue was put the logo on the first 12 cues bc they didnt have their press yet.
Click to expand...

Thanks for posting this so I didn't have to. Bill never made an It's George cue, never happened. After things started to get a little busy, Mike Wheeler came into the picture and helped everything get organized and got the quality control in line. The guys from Bella Sera worked in the shop doing various things and I'm sure they learned a lot from Mike(Wheeler not Roberts) and they had access to Bill Schick for questions etc. These guys did not apprentice with Bill, they worked in the It's George cue shop, and they apprenticed with Mike Wheeler. Wheeler by this time had already worked with Bill Stroud and Richard Black, so he brought a lot to the table in regards to cue construction and playability. I hate to see the posts for It's George cues and Bella Sera cues where the owners tie these cues to Bill Schick in hopes of pumping up the value and interest. It's George cues were cool and most of them played great, I hope whatever is going on now doesn't diminish the legacy of the good ole days.
 
iamthepoolboy said:
Saw this thread on the 24th It,s George #001

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

I have just received an It's George Playing cue from Mike Roberts. It is a reborn line of cues he made back in the late 80's. This cue is a Cocobolo cue with 4 veneers around 4 Cocobolo points with a double Ivory spear in the middle. The butt sleeve is the same with larger double spears and a diamond in the middle. It comes with 2 shafts (12.9) and Ivory ferrule with m. Moori tips. I will be dealing these cues with Mike Roberts and they will all be numbered and registered, and will come with a certificate of authenticity. I will post pictures this week of this cue to be viewed on my web site (www.babysproshop.com).
Mike Gulyassy
Click to expand...

Who is building the cues?
 
manwon said:
I suspect that they are made by Kao Kao in China like many other cues.
Click to expand...

Would they use real ivory in a cue made in China though? Couldn't that get the company in a lot of trouble? Individual buyers and sellers sure... but I cant see a company risking loosing inventory and fines for a customs violation to import a cue.

Perhaps im wrong though.
But thats just my thinking.

Vic
 
I believe it is legit. I remember seeing this cue on ebay with a buy it now price of something like $700 or so quite a few months back. Obviously it did not sell then.

I believe the seller then may have been poolplayingactor. I do not remember it being Gulyassy the first time it was listed. I know poolplayingactor knows Mike Roberts, because I had him pose a question to Mike for me a couple of years back.

Kelly
 
Last edited:
vicdotcom said:
Would they use real ivory in a cue made in China though? Couldn't that get the company in a lot of trouble? Individual buyers and sellers sure... but I cant see a company risking loosing inventory and fines for a customs violation to import a cue.

Perhaps im wrong though.
But thats just my thinking.

Vic
Click to expand...


it is against the law to import and export ivory out of the country. however there are ways around it. some over seas cuemakers cover the cue with black shoe polish and it goes right through customs i guess.
 
manwon said:
Bugs, I would almost be willing to bet that these cues are not made in the USA like the Orginals. I suspect that they are made by Kao Kao in China like many other cues. Look at the user name of the eBay seller, Gulyassy, could this be Mike Gulyassy the inventor of the Sledgehammer Jump break?

To me if the cues are made in China, they will never attain the value of the Old Its-George cues whcih were made in the USA by a Famous cue maker.

Just somes thoughts on the subject
Click to expand...


conspiracy theory entheusiast no doubt ;)
 
vicdotcom said:
Would they use real ivory in a cue made in China though? Couldn't that get the company in a lot of trouble? Individual buyers and sellers sure... but I cant see a company risking loosing inventory and fines for a customs violation to import a cue.

Perhaps im wrong though.
But thats just my thinking.

Vic
Click to expand...

Vic, look at the above thread (http://forums.azbilliards.com/newreply.php?do=newreply&p=736084)

This is the person who made the Sledgehammer jump break cue, and he is the distributer for these new cues. He has done business with Kao Kao in China many times in the past. My statements were above his and if you read what he said about these new cues, no where was it stated they are made in the USA, and he made no statement about my comments.

So Vic, I suspect that I am right, and these cues are being made in China. But who cares anyway as long as the buyers know it up front. If not then I would say there is intended deception here, and I hope this is not the case.

Have a nice day!!!
 
It's George!

I sure hope they are not being made overseas. I wonder whats it's going to do to the market value of the original series?
 
iamthepoolboy said:
I sure hope they are not being made overseas. I wonder whats it's going to do to the market value of the original series?
Click to expand...

Mike since you are going to sell them, could you please find out for the board here at AZ who is making them and where they are really being made.

Thanks Mike, and have a great night!!!!!!!
 
It's George!

Talked to Mike Roberts today and he says he builds the cues himself and Gulyassy does the finish and wraps. He says he only going to make a few a year.
 
iamthepoolboy said:
Talked to Mike Roberts today and he says he builds the cues himself and Gulyassy does the finish and wraps. He says he only going to make a few a year.
Click to expand...

Thanks for the Update, I suppose that is possible. But if they start flooding the market we will know that is not the way it is.

Have a great day
 
My God! I wish they would stop with the green veneers! I don't know why, but I just hate green on a cue.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Back
Top