The shot that rocked JoeyA

you might be like me...celebrating the incredibly tough shot and position that you executed flawlessly to leave this toddler simple out...and your stroking arm was to tired from patting yourself on the back..

that dog bites me every so often..:D
 
JoeyA said:
I was playing in a tournament last weekend and I had lost my very first match but fought back to within one match of getting in the money. It was bar table, 8 ball, winner break.

The score was 2-2 racing to 5. I had the following shot displayed below on www.cuetable.com

The eight and the three ball were the only two balls left on the table.

Take a look at the shot and tell me the different ways it is possible to miss this shot.

We're talking about a bar table with good equipment.

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After you make some guesses at how I missed this shot, I'll tell you exactly what happened.
I don't want to give you any hints so I will just let you guess.

By the way, after I missed the shot, my opponent broke and ran the next rack, leading the match 4-2. I may have had a chance to win the next game or two, to make it 4-3 or 4-4 but about the only thing I can remember clearly is this three ball shot. It is likely to live in my memory for all the rest of my days.
:sad::sad::sad::crying::crying:
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You tried to use follow and a little left to go to the rail and get yourself
straight in on the 8.You could of rolled it a little forward and not went to the
rail but since you where straight in you didnt want to take a chance of scratching.So you forced the shot a little and it cost you.
 
I know why. You had red beans rice and sausage before you played...didn't you. :thumbup:
 
I had two guesses. One has already been stated, you slow rolled the 3 and didn't make it to the pocket.

My original thought, and I do this on occasion out of pure stupidity. I find I don't even look at the ball, in this case the 3. It is so routine you are watching your leave, taking it for granted, and you actually aren't even paying attention to the OB. Kind of like texting on the phone while driving then looking up realizing you drove a mile:D (of course ive never done that:wink:)
 
Missed shot/wife

JoeyA said:
Neil,
Have you ever missed such an easy shot as this? I mean since you learned how to play. This is on a bar table and the shot was very easy.

I'm hoping to see if someone can guess as to WHY I missed the shot, not how or where I missed the shot. But to respond, no, it did not hit the left point but since you made a good guess at where the 3 ball hit. I will tell you it didn't fly off the table. :D Actually, the three ball hit the right point of the side pocket.
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Joey I'll say that it has something to do with your wife, maybe she call's at the moment you shoot the ball, or she suddenly comes in unannounced and gets on the mic inquiring about JoeyA......


This may not be the reason (why) you missed, but it has been many times for others!:grin:


David Harcrow
 
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He's taking his time responding, which means one of two things -

1 - He has successfully blocked out the entire memory of the shot.

2 - No one has got it right and he has the patience of an alligator.

' :D
 
Why???

You watched the Varner/Sigel US Open match on DVD the night before and had a Varner flashback?
 
Manoman2444 said:
You were texting with your left and only shooting with your right!
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Cute, I will text at any moment. I don't have to see the keys, I just know where they are and go.... BUT NO, that wasn't it.

justadub said:
You put the three in the side pocket and followed it in? Or put it in the side pocket using too much draw and scratched in the opposite side pocket?
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Good guess but no.

Neil said:
Yep, I sure have missed shots that easy! Even with BIH! It becomes rather embarrassing when it happens, but it happens to just about everyone at some point. I even saw Luther Lassister miss one easier than that into the corner. Ref had to stop him from shooting the next ball, he thought he made it!

As to WHY you missed it, man...... I could make a list quite long on the reasons why I have missed very makeable shots in the past. But, I'll take a stab at one- if it was a Valley table, your cue dragged on the pocket and threw you off just enough. ??? All right, one more- you totally took the shot for granted and expected it to fall instead of making it fall.

Re-reading your post, you drew back for the scratch.
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More good guesses. I like all of them.

Palmetto cue said:
Did you miss it to the right because you took it for granted? I have done it too many times.
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No, I knew how important the shot was and did not take it for granted.

pulzcul said:
My Nemesis, inside english.
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No, I hit the cue ball on the vertical axis.

markatwork said:
you slow rolled the 3,it didnt go in or hit a rail,just stopped short giving opponent ball in hand on the 8
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Yes, I did slow roll the cue ball but WHY didn't it go in. It wasn't because the three ball didn't have enough speed to reach the pocket.

TATE said:
Because while you were over the ball, you thought about that thread about chalking with the wrong hand. You wondered how could chalking with the wrong hand help your game? You asked yourself "how could a dumb idea like that turn into a five page thread with thousands of views about right and left sides of your brain?" Then you wondered if you chalked with your left toes, would that work the bottom half of your right brain. Or vice versa.

Then you thought about the guy who wore out his ferrule chalking with Diamond chalk - and you noticed the chalk was Diamond.

You shook off all those negative thoughts and beared down on the shot. You got on it, jacked up a little because you didn't want to slow roll it, and miscued. And it wasn't just a little miscue, the cue ball hopped up and landed right on the object ball. It was the dreaded scoop-jump miscue.

All because, dammit, you forgot to chalk!

Chris
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Hahaha, Believe it or not, the last two days I have been taking up the habit of chalking with the opposite hand but no, it was not the dreaded scoop miscue that has happened to every human being on the planet. It was far more nefarious than that.

genomachino said:
This is one of those shots that a player can take for granted and just flat out get the head and the eyes in the.

Being right eye dominant your eyes and head have to be as far to the left as possible. Your right eye needs to stay in the dominant position to see this shot correctly no matter how simple it is.

If your head is just a little to far to the right it will still look good because your left eye decides to try and be dominant but it is not right as you experienced. Unfortuanately it is in situations like this that we get those shots that we miss that almost seem impossible to miss.

But if the eyes are not in the correct position the results sometimes are not what we want.

Don't beat yourself up to bad about this shot. Just learn and be aware on each and every shot where the head and eyes need to be. This will conquer this demon.:grin-devilish:

Good luck Joey. Have a great weekend. geno........:thumbup2:
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My eyes said, "YOU HAVE PERFECT AIM", so no, that wasn't it either. I figure that talking about it will help me erase the nightmare.

3RAILKICK said:
Did you bridge on the rail and catch the pocket lining on the forward stroke?resulting in a top of cb mishit, squirt left, ob to the right??

I dunno. But I can see karma putting on the 'that's all she wrote buddy!' warning (prepare for reversal of momentum).

You too, huh? Welcome aboard.

Sorry, Joey-been there-I think most of us have been there.

Take care/chin up-it don't mean nuttin.
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That's a common problem, catching the pocket liner and it grabbing your cue, but no, that wasn't it.

"T" said:
You hit the three with top, firm, to play the cue ball off the opposite rail. The angle opened up on you a little?

AKA -Trying to show off. :D

Edit - 2nd guess - The only other thing I can think of is you played it easy with a little high left and maybe because of humid conditions and shooting over the pocket, the cue ball swerved a little left before contacting the object ball.

I've NEVER done this. Well... almost. :D
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T, I wish that it was ego because I would be a quick discplinarian to fix that problem. I am harder on myself than most people although I will accept the truth, deal with it correctly and move on. I don't live in the past.

grindz said:
You heard somewhere that Shane hits strsight in shots with low left, and ............

td


:wink:
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hehehe.

hangemhigh said:
Your pool glove caught a snag on the new double LD shaft you were reviewing?
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Believe it or not, my shooting glove has a hole in it and if my cue had grabbed some damp skin through the hole and jerked my cue off line, I might have joined George Fox. ( Thanks Bob C.) :D

our_auctionguy said:
Did you lean over to shoot and make a funny noise from the back 9 right as you started your follow through on your stroke, causing you to jump up saying "Was that me??"

I'm guilty of that one.
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I wish it could be so humbling and embarassing.

ShootingArts said:
My first guess would be an earthquake. Not Keith, the building moved. My second guess would be you got a little cute with either spin or cheating the pocket to keep the cue ball in a little better position for the eight being as how you are used to playing on big fairly tough tables. Easy to forget the side pockets are actually tougher on the bar box. You could have made the eight from anywhere on the table except possibly hooked in a pocket or frozen on the head rail but the automatic habit of setting up for the easier shot bit you in the rear. Overthought and overlooked the duck on the table to get to the next sitting duck.

Right, wrong, wrong ballpark?

Final guess, Shanelle walked into the room?

Hu
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Good guesses, all of them, but no that wasn't it. I'm surprised that no one has mentioned that I got sharked. But no, that wasn't it either.

dorabelle said:
were you high ball?
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No, I was low ball. Interesting thought.


dorabelle said:
you chalked wiyh your bridge hand and you were off line.
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I did hold the chalk with my right hand at this time and chalk with my right hand (and I shoot right handed) but I was Perfectly aligned.

softshot said:
you might be like me...celebrating the incredibly tough shot and position that you executed flawlessly to leave this toddler simple out...and your stroking arm was to tired from patting yourself on the back..

that dog bites me every so often..:D
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Yeah, that was a tough habit to break but I don't do that very often.

houmatroy said:
You did A Ricky P & tapped the cue ball when you were stroking...Giving your opponent BIH :)
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I'm not going to comment about the stuff I have seen Ricky do. You'd think he was dumping some of the time but if you're around him enough, you know he can do some of the craziest stuff, you have ever seen.
But no, that wasn't it. Good guess though.

SoundWaves said:
you realized you forgot to wear your pool shoes?
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Hahaha, no I was wearing them. :)

8pack said:
You tried to use follow and a little left to go to the rail and get yourself
straight in on the 8.You could of rolled it a little forward and not went to the
rail but since you where straight in you didnt want to take a chance of scratching.So you forced the shot a little and it cost you.
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I wanted to make this shot and was careful in that regard and did not use any side spin, nor did I force the shot but thanks for the good guess.

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Well, I hope no one else guesses any more because my fingers are getting callouses on them. :thumbup: Thanks to everyone for posting.
 
You laid down cause the dipster walked in and your plan is to sneak up on his blind side

or:

the dreaded cue ball skid

or:

the cue ball or object ball rolled over some crap on the felt which resulted in disaster
 
OK, now that you have botched all theories, I'm going to have to go with... you missed it on purpose to arrange a better game? Sandbagger :wink:
 
or, maybe hit the cue ball on your practice stroke. I may have invented that one, but you can share in my agony.
 
What happened stunned me. I don't stun very easily but I was so mad, I hit my cue tip and shaft on the table rather hard and could easily have broken the ferrule or shaft. (Don't tell OB Cue).

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I noticed my opponent who came in third in the tournament regularly shooting easy shots with great speed and I think I will be giving up the slow speed shooting. I wouldn't have shot this shot slowly but the table rolled GREAT and I knew the object ball wouldn't roll off but I have never had an object ball immediately jump to the side, then roll straight. Most of the skids that I have had came from a cut shot and they were readily apparent. Once or twice ON STRAIGHT IN SHOTS, I have had the cue ball, kind of climb up on top of the object ball and make a little hop but still made the ball. This is the first time that a STRAIGHT IN SHOT has decided to do a side step. I felt like someone had pulled an O Soto Gari on me.

I will remember this shot for the rest of my life. The three ball literally side-stepped and then rolled straight into the right point. Aieeeeh!
 
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