usually from bottom of butt-cap to joint face.But is this length from pin to bumper or without them? How do you measure the butt to get the 29 inch length
no, you don't.I don't think you include the pin in that 29"
57" was the standard for years. Mid 80's-ish the 58's started becoming standard. Referring to pool cues here and not snooker/carom.Back in the early days of custom cues many were 56 inches and since then it has become 58 inches with longer cues these days. But in my opinion 58 is the common standard.
As others have stated correctly the pin is not counted as it is just a device which attaches the butt and shaft to make it like the cues many of us grew up using. One piece cues that hung on racks in the pool rooms.
Joe Gold built me his first cue over 57 inches. He made it as a favor and got the three shafts from Joel Hercek for it. All Joes shafts were cut for 57 inch cues which is why he got them from Joel.57" was the standard for years. Mid 80's-ish the 58's started becoming standard. Referring to pool cues here and not snooker/carom.
i just chek'd three cues and all were 29" from bottom of buttcap to joint face. shafts are measured from joint face to end of ferrule.thanks all, but if I don't include pin nor bumper doesn't this make all butts which are said to be 29 inch standard, to be 28.5 inches instead? Check your butt, measure it without the pin and butt bumper, you'll see its 28.5 inches, even though company states its a 29 inch butt.
I think we must include the bumper at least, but yea no pin