The STRONGEST SPOT to me is...

[Bigkat]

The longer race favors the "shortstop" or whatever but make it a race to 5 or 7 games and that spot is GARGANTUAN!!

 

[Nostroke]

Game on the wire, race to one-Bet what you want!!

 

[Bigkat]

@nostroke
If you know sportsbetting lines then the appropriate spread in our hypothetical match is me -120 ✔✔

 

[Icon of Sin]

Hell!!! I can throw a rock in any direction and hit 5 of em. He's saying he's an APA 8 bro!! I look at that the same as I would look at playing your Grandma. Unless apa 8s on the East Coast play like burning hell, cuz in the Midwest they suck. Plain and simple. No apa 8 is beating the ghost for damn sure. I'm pretty sure you can't show me a apa 8 that can average, over the course of a 100 games, a run to the 7 ball every rack. Talking 9ft Diamond here. I'm not saying he's a shitty player, just misinformed, and lacking a little knowledge. We all start somewhere. He just said 100 players and it's probably along the lines of 100,000 +

I agree 100 percent.

H<----was an APA 8 a long time ago. I was delusional as well.

 

[Nostroke]

@nostroke
If you know sportsbetting lines then the appropriate spread in our hypothetical match is me -120 ✔✔

You are already down one set! Wanna run it back?

 

[cubswin]

No apa 8 is beating the ghost for damn sure.

I got up to a 8 in apa in one session, and have no plans to play it anymore. I can think of more than once person in my state that would give that up on a 9ft table. Hell I'm pretty sure I can think of a couple that would give it to me on a bar table.

 

[Cornerman]

@nostroke
If you know sportsbetting lines then the appropriate spread in our hypothetical match is me -120 ✔✔

Ummm.... you're laying -120 in a race to 1, and you've already put a game on the wire on your opponent's side?

Wow.

 

[Cornerman]

You are already down one set! Wanna run it back?

LOL! This can't go long.

 

[cubswin]

Ummm.... you're laying -120 in a race to 1, and you've already put a game on the wire on your opponent's side?

Wow.

Well there goes the rail bets.

 

[Cornerman]

Well there goes the rail bets.

I can't stop laughing.

 

[justinb386]

* The breaks + ball in hand afterwards. I know I'm just a lowly APA 8. But I would feel highly competitive with anybody outside of maybe 100 players in the world with this spot✔✔. Maybe I'm wrong though LOL

So, you are basically betting that you can beat the ghost more often then not (either that or play a jam up safety if you have to). I guess it just depends who is giving you that spot.

I do not think it is that strong of a spot, to give to solid C level player (in my case).

I might give a B player the breaks, or just the 8 ball, but no more then that.

In my case, I think I would need more then the break and ball in hand (playing anyone in the world, outside of the top 100).

I do not know, but I am betting there are a lot more then a 100 solid AA (or stronger) players in the world.

If you are an 8 in APA league, then you may need a little more then just the breaks and ball in hand from a AA player.

 

[justinb386]

I would have to try anybody in the world like that on a Barbox.
Jason

Keep in mind that the balls are not going to spread out decent on all of your breaks. You may have to deal with trouble balls. You had better have a very strong defensive game (and not just a strong offensive game).

I remember this very strong player down in Nashville (I think his name was Billy) bragging that he would play Pagulayan with just the breaks (as a spot). This was back in the early 2000's.

 

[GoldenFlash]

Odds on the money

So, you are basically betting that you can beat the ghost more often then not (either that or play a jam up safety if you have to). I guess it just depends who is giving you that spot.
I do not think it is that strong of a spot, to give to solid C level player (in my case).
I might give a B player the breaks, or just the 8 ball, but no more then that.
In my case, I think I would need more then the break and ball in hand (playing anyone in the world, outside of the top 100).
I do not know, but I am betting there are a lot more then a 100 solid AA (or stronger) players in the world.

Just give me 2-1 on the money on each game and the 8 in 9-ball.
That situation will run the guy giving the spot crazy....especially if you know how to play when getting a spot (most players don't).
As for the odds....do the math.
(they didn't call me a total locksmith for nothing)

 

[justinb386]

If you're really an APA 8, then you are dead wrong. You didn't specify much, but if wanna you try that on a 9ft diamond you got action till the end of the world here in Texas.

Yeah, I would only feel confident (playing anyone in Texas) with the 6 ball, the breaks, and ball in hand after the breaks (on a tight 9 foot Diamond).

 

[justinb386]

There might be 100 just in Texas that would give up that spot


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They would have to know the player who they are willing to give up that spot to though.

 

[noMoreSchon]

Just give me 2-1 on the money on each game and the 8 in 9-ball.
That spot will run somebody crazy....especially if you know how to play when getting a spot (most players don't).
As for the odds....do the math.
(they didn't call me a total locksmith for nothing)

I love money odds...everyday all day.

 

[Yotehntr]

Not to de-rail but what is "beat the ghost"?

 

[justinb386]

Used to be a guy here in Tulsa who'd do this: if his cueball ever touched a rail, he lost. Seen him outrun it quite a few times.

Wow, that sounds crazy. He would have to have amazing cue ball control, and for the best cue ball control player in the world, it still may not work out.

 

[justinb386]

Unless the skill difference isn't that much, an 8 is probably biting off more than they can chew asking for that. Sounds dandy and all, but reality is a *****.

On a 9' Diamond, I'd offer it up first, because it all but guarantees me a shortened runout.

<-- worst 9 ever

Yeah, I do not think it is that big of a spot on a 9 foot Diamond. A 7 foot Valley is a completely different story though. I do not think many players would want to give up the breaks and ball in hand to just any player (playing on a 7 foor Valley), unless they really knew who they were giving up the spot to.

 

[justinb386]

You really think there are lot of players in Texas who will give up the break and ball in hand for money?

I think thats a HUGE spot for an APA 8....

A "AA" (or stronger player) might give an APA 8 that spot (playing on a tight 9 foot Diamond), if he knew who he was giving up the spot to (and the true strength of their game). Even a B player might give up that spot (depending on who he was offering it to). I would give up that spot to any regular APA 5 (or weaker) player, just so he was not a sand bagging 5.