The Touch Of Inside - How to Experience the Aiming Aspect?

CJ Wiley

CJ Wiley

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If you want to experience the aiming part of TOI try this:

Set up a slightly off angled shot (straight in to a spot a half diamond to the left of the corner pocket). This means you need to cut it slightly to the right, so look at the center of your tip, then get down as if it's straight in, aim at center (for your reference point and to "dial in your eyes"), then more your whole stick parallel to the shot line slightly to the right.

Hit it at the center, just like it's straight in and see what happens. It will cut slightly and go in, if it over cuts, set it up again and use LESS TOI. If it doesn't cut at all you're not using any TOI, cue it slightly more inside, to the right. After you make this and really FEEL the connection to the shot, more the angle where it's straight in to the first diamond repeat this drill.

This is how to calibrate the angles of TOI. There's no short cut to learning how much TOI to use to create the angles, I"ll just tell you it's LESS than you probably think it is.

After you do this you will start to "Real Eyes" what I've been saying about unintentionally deflecting shots OUT of the pocket in the past. If you just cue it a HAIR outside of center it will deflect a half diamond on a 4'-5' shot. Imagine how many balls you've missed by unintentionally doing this and having NO IDEA why.

This is why I strongly recommend NOT using center ball because{a slight stoking error} will happen and you won't be able to tell which side of center you "might" have hit. Maybe you didn't, maybe you did, who knows?

How can you make the correct adjustment if you can't identify what he root issue of the miss is (aiming, alignment, body/feet position, visual perspective)?

You simply won't be able to, however, players like myself will beat you because of this knowledge - understanding how to adjust quickly is a huge advantage.

I know one thing, you will not know for sure unless you start favoring one side of the cue ball and TOI is the best side because that's where your contact point is. Think about this, and it will make more and more sense. 'The Game is the Teacher' CJ WIley
 
An experiment with TOI...exciting results

A few months ago I bought Wiley's disc on TOI. Not on blind faith but because I had in the past seen top action players using what appeared to be the exact same thing.
I am an old man...75 years old and have been playing since I was 15. My eyes are still 20/20, my blood pressure is 120/80, and I am not fat. That takes care of all the physical stuff...and my nerves are still good. I always said "I play just as bad in practice as I do in a match...I don't worry about any pressure".
I do not subscribe to the "positive thinking" stuff...the balls do not care how positive I am...they merely react. I do exactly the opposite...by thinking to myself..."oh well it looks like I'm going to dog this shot too"....wham! the ball goes in the hole. I get a positive outcome by assuming a negative result. You can stand in front of a mirror all day long with a big smile repeating affirmations about how great you play and the balls will bring you back to reality before you can spit. Now that is what WORKS FOR ME...each person must decide on their own about all the "mental aspects".
All I wanted with this purchase was a way that was REPEATABLE...OVER AND OVER AGAIN WITHOUT DOING ANY "ESTIMATING" about "is this a 1/4 ball, a half ball, a 9/16 ball, a 13/16 ball, etc etc etc. A tool that would provide consistency and nothing more.....consistency can scare the pants off a very good player. "this old sonova***** just keeps on making balls...he won't dog".
Being a natural born skeptic, I wanted to give this TOI thing a tough test.
First, I put my Predator stick away and went to Walmart.
I bought the cheapest piece of crap they had...with all kinds of dragons painted on it, but it was pretty straight and has some kind of metal joint. Then I sawed off the ferrule and sanded the end. Next, with no ferrule at all, I took some JB Weld and glued a tip right on the end of the wood shaft. Then I took a butcher knife and whacked all kind of dents, rough spots, and digs, into the shaft. Then I painted the entire thing flat black.
It's the ugliest thing you ever saw.
My reasoning behind this was that I figured if I could get a new aiming system down with a piece of junk like this...then when I picked up my Predator after a few months of training, shooting would be a lead pipe cinch.
I am happy to say after about 60 days of DAMN HARD WORK (for me anyway) that the experiment has paid off.
The old junk stick is now being used as a tomato stake in my garden and the old reliable Predator sends "them balls in like they had eyes" thanks to the TOI idea.
The experiment and my natural curiosity paid off.
I just robbed every shooter at the old folks home and at the hell-hole juke joints within 5 miles of the place with no hassles or 'tough guy' stuff from beer guzzlers.
They just assume "that old guy is crazy but he shoots pretty good"
Life is good and pool shooting with this TOI is a coooooooool breeeeeeze, like Chuck Berry said in his old song..."You Can't Catch Me"
So let it be written, so let it be done...
Flash.
 
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GoldenFlash said:
A few months ago I bought Wiley's disc on TOI. Not on blind faith but because I had in the past seen top action players using what appeared to be the exact same thing.
I am an old man...75 years old and have been playing since I was 15. My eyes are still 20/20, my blood pressure is 120/80, and I am not fat. That takes care of all the physical stuff...and my nerves are still good. I always said "I play just as bad in practice as I do in a match...I don't worry about any pressure".
Being a natural born skeptic, I wanted to give this TOI thing a tough test.
First, I put my Predator stick away and went to Walmart.
I bought the cheapest piece of crap they had...with all kinds of dragons painted on it, but it was pretty straight and has some kind of metal joint. Then I sawed off the ferrule and sanded the end. Next, with no ferrule at all, I took some JB Weld and glued a tip right on the end of the wood shaft. Then I took a butcher knife and whacked all kind of dents, rough spots, and digs, into the shaft. Then I painted the entire thing flat black.
It's the ugliest thing you ever saw.
My reasoning behind this was that I figured if I could get a new aiming system down with a piece of junk like this...then when I picked up my Predator after a few months of training, shooting would be a lead pipe cinch.
I am happy to say after about 60 days of DAMN HARD WORK (for me anyway) that the experiment has paid off.
The old junk stick is now being used as a tomato stake in my garden and the old reliable Predator sends "them balls in like they had eyes" thanks to the TOI idea.
The experiment and my natural curiosity paid off.
I just robbed every shooter at the old folks home and at the hell-hole juke joints within 5 miles of the place with no hassles or 'tough guy' stuff from beer guzzlers.
They just assume "that old guy is crazy but he shoots pretty good"
Life is good and pool shooting with this TOI is a coooooooool breeeeeeze, like Chuck Berry said in his old song..."You Can't Catch Me"
So let it be written, so let it be done...
Flash.
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So you got toi down with the cheap stick and went to a predator shaft and everything is working like a charm...am I getting this right?
 
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You're not really spinning the cue ball, so it's not much of an adjustment between regular and LD shafts.
I have no problem switching between my Predator and a house cue using TOI, but once I start trying to use outside spin, I'm completely lost.
 
8pack said:
So you got toi down with the cheap stick and went to a predator shaft and everything is working like a charm...am I getting this right?
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I guess that's about it.
I don't know what you mean about the "shaft thing" ??.
I have a Predator stick that I bought new in 1996 and that's all I got. It's 2-piece like cues have been since I was a boy.
Flash
 
victorl said:
You're not really spinning the cue ball, so it's not much of an adjustment between regular and LD shafts.
I have no problem switching between my Predator and a house cue using TOI, but once I start trying to use outside spin, I'm completely lost.
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Try coming down with TOI and pivot over to outside spin before the shot.

Best,
Mike
 
GoldenFlash said:
I guess that's about it.
I don't know what you mean about the "shaft thing" ??.
I have a Predator stick that I bought new in 1996 and that's all I got. It's 2-piece like cues have been since I was a boy.
Flash
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Your story about the cheap cue and what you done to it doesn't make any sense.
Even if you got good with that shaft(cue) only means when you started using your predator again you had to start over. Your buying a cue for an aiming experiment sounds silly.;) Playing with your non playing cue is a waist of time.;)
 
8pack said:
Your story about the cheap cue and what you done to it doesn't make any sense.
Even if you got good with that shaft(cue) only means when you started using your predator again you had to start over. Your buying a cue for an aiming experiment sounds silly.;) Playing with your non playing cue is a waist of time.;)
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Sounds silly, you say? :shakehead:
Then fine...don't do it. Tell everyone you know, take out an ad in the newspaper, write a letter to your congressman, have a protest march....whatever you wish.
You just haven't lived long enough or travelled enough to realize that what seems 'silly' to you is quite the norm in other places. This world is huge and does not rotate around your center of activity or your opinions.
This is not any "sale" to you of an idea...just relating how the concept works. My experiments merely demonstrated that the quality of the cue cannot be used as an excuse for failure with TOI
And no....you don't have to "start all over" when picking up a real good quality cue.
But, with your apparent closed mind, you will probably never know that.
 
GoldenFlash said:
Sounds silly, you say? :shakehead:
Then fine...don't do it. Tell everyone you know, take out an ad in the newspaper, write a letter to your congressman, have a protest march....whatever you wish.
You just haven't lived long enough or travelled enough to realize that what seems 'silly' to you is quite the norm in other places. This world is huge and does not rotate around your center of activity or your opinions.
This is not any "sale" to you of an idea...just relating how the concept works. My experiments merely demonstrated that the quality of the cue cannot be used as an excuse for failure with TOI
And no....you don't have to "start all over" when picking up a real good quality cue.
But, with your apparent closed mind, you will probably never know that.
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The only thing that sounds silly to me is using the cue for a tomato stake. You probably could have gotten your money back by posting on Ebay or The For Sale forum here. Seriously, you've got me by 3 years. I'd give anything to have 20/20 again.
 
GoldenFlash said:
Sounds silly, you say? :shakehead:
Then fine...don't do it. Tell everyone you know, take out an ad in the newspaper, write a letter to your congressman, have a protest march....whatever you wish.
You just haven't lived long enough or travelled enough to realize that what seems 'silly' to you is quite the norm in other places. This world is huge and does not rotate around your center of activity or your opinions.
This is not any "sale" to you of an idea...just relating how the concept works. My experiments merely demonstrated that the quality of the cue cannot be used as an excuse for failure with TOI
And no....you don't have to "start all over" when picking up a real good quality cue.
But, with your apparent closed mind, you will probably never know that.
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Your story sounds more like a sales pitch..;) and a cheap playing cue isn't going to give the same feed back as a ld,shaft...matter of fact a lot of cues play different.So that being said the line your addressing for the shot will change (when using different shafts)due to that fact . So yes,you will need to make knew adjustments.

Very open minded Young Man...but lets keep things real,you didn't really use the stick for a tomato stake did you..:grin::rolleyes:

Btw...I do like your story...:smile:

 
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When you get to be 75, most people got a lot of time on their hands. So this guy decided for him, intellectually, what a good test would be to prove the credibility of TOI. I'm not exactly sure what he was trying to prove but it was his time and money so who cares. I'm guessing he wanted to prove TOI worked regardless of the equipment and that it was easily transferable from one cue to another without any significant adjustment. Sounds like that worked for him. I'd say good for him.
 
nobcitypool said:
When you get to be 75, most people got a lot of time on their hands. So this guy decided for him, intellectually, what a good test would be to prove the credibility of TOI. I'm not exactly sure what he was trying to prove but it was his time and money so who cares. I'm guessing he wanted to prove TOI worked regardless of the equipment and that it was easily transferable from one cue to another without any significant adjustment. Sounds like that worked for him. I'd say good for him.
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Well he's got it wrong if that's what he's thinking.;)

Touch of outside is know different,there's a lot of calibrating due to speed and distance.
Change shafts ,well if doesn't play like the one you connected with on toi or outside,your going to miss a lot of balls.

Missed Balls are the Teacher.:smile:
 
8pack said:
Change shafts ,well if doesn't play like the one you connected with on toi or outside,your going to miss a lot of balls.
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I know players that can grab ANY cue off the rack (with a decent tip) and shoot lights out.
They don't connect to only one shaft, but are good enough to adapt without missing balls.
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Ralph Kramden said:
I know players that can grab ANY cue off the rack (with a decent tip) and shoot lights out.
They don't connect to only one shaft, but are good enough to adapt without missing balls.
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This story is about toi a tomato stake and a ld shaft .
House cues and regular playing shafts may play a little closer,but toi with a ld shaft is a different monster altogether .

Center ball aiming -any shaft
Toi,too- stick to the one your always going to use .


And no they won't be able to connect to any shaft and play lights out.
Unless they play all center cb.

I guarantee serious players don't like going outside center cb with a shaft that they haven't played with. ;)
 
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.this is a HUGE DIFFERENCE, and shouldn't be taken for granted.

Actually 'Touch of Outside' is much different because it requires spin to keep from undercutting the object ball......TOI requires no spin, and it will over-cut the object ball....this is a HUGE DIFFERENCE, and shouldn't be taken for granted.

'The Secrets are the Teacher' www.cjwiley.com


8pack said:
Well he's got it wrong if that's what he's thinking.;)

Touch of outside is know different,there's a lot of calibrating due to speed and distance.
Change shafts ,well if doesn't play like the one you connected with on toi or outside,your going to miss a lot of balls.

Missed Balls are the Teacher.:smile:
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CJ Wiley said:
Actually 'Touch of Outside' is much different because it requires spin to keep from undercutting the object ball(depends on speed)......TOI requires no spin, (you are still putting spin on the ball)and it will over-cut the object ball....this is a HUGE DIFFERENCE, and shouldn't be taken for granted.

'The Secrets are the Teacher' www.cjwiley.com
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My point was that your not going to jump from one shaft to another without some changes unless they play the same. You agree??:smile:

Toi can be adapted to a lot of shots,but just like any other method of shooting balls in,it requires a lot of practice.

No secret here....Practice is the teacher.
 
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