They Finally Made a Pool Table-Computer

[iusedtoberich]

No one "needs" this. Anyone can put the effort forward to place balls on the table, put doughnuts, design their own drills, or copy someone else's drills.

The point of this product is to make all of that easier.

Now, if this product changes a players habbits from doing 1 drill a week for an hour, to 50 drills a week for 10 hours, then that is a net improvement to that players focused practice time.

If that proves the player is lazy, so what. At the end of the day if this makes a given player increase their focused practice, then it's worth it for that player.

 

[mchnhed]

Drills are drills. Do you really need an overhead projector to tell you where to place the balls? How does this make it "learning the easy way" as opposed to "the hard way"? If you place the balls and do the drills WHAT difference does it make? Does having projected images on the table make you learn better/faster? If you want to use it, knock yourself out but don't try telling me that not using it is learning the hard way. BTW, speaking of "confused": what does a piece of equipment(golf shaft in your analogy) have to do with a learning/teaching method?

1. I need to bring a Book of Drills so I can lay the pattern out.
The projected image shows me where.
2. I have to keep looking at the book, checking the table, looking at the book, checking the table, until the drill is set up.
The projected image shows me where.
3. The Pool Room I go to will not allow you to use the Donuts for repeatability.
The projected image allows me repeatability.

Yes, I will learn faster because I can setup faster, have more drills available and can concentrate on practicing rather than studying drawings of drills and trying to translate them into the real world.

 

[garczar]

1. I need to bring a Book of Drills so I can lay the pattern out.
The projected image shows me where.
2. I have to keep looking at the book, checking the table, looking at the book, checking the table, until the drill is set up.
The projected image shows me where.
3. The Pool Room I go to will not allow you to use the Donuts for repeatability.
The projected image allows me repeatability.

Yes, I will learn faster because I can setup faster, have more drills available and can concentrate on practicing rather than studying drawings of drills and trying to translate them into the real world.

There's this amazing ability us humans have. Its called MEMORY. I don't know what this "Book of Drills" is to be honest. There's about 4 or 5 that will train both pocketing and ball movement. No donuts required,unless they've got sprinkles. You guys have fun with your new gadget. BTW, faster rarely equals better. But hey, if it makes your pool journey all warm-n-fuzzy to you, so be it.

 

[Mikey Town]

I think this thing looks awesome... It's great for drills, but think of the other applications.

You can create new games... Pocket a particular shot, and get the cue ball to land into a target... different point values the closer you get to the center of the target. Have a set of 10 shots, keep the total score of each player and place your bets!

There are all sorts of different scoreboards you can design that can be projected onto the table. Though this may be a bit easier if it could be hooked up to a phone app for scoring control.

Or you can just use the convenience of the "place projector anywhere" calibration that this has built in to it, to easily project images, logos, messages, etc... onto the table for parties and gatherings.

Personally, I'd love to see a "famous shots" package that is based on great shots from high profile matches and movies. Just imagine watching the movie clip of Paul Newman making the "Hustler Bank" right on your pool table, then when the clip is over, a projection appears of exactly how to set that shot up and make it... or maybe you watch Corey Deuel get out of this rack: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VVDrZK6VpuU then see exactly how to setup the layout and try to get out from the same place he did.

So many possibilities...

 

[mchnhed]

There's this amazing ability us humans have. Its called MEMORY. I don't know what this "Book of Drills" is to be honest. There's about 4 or 5 that will train both pocketing and ball movement. No donuts required,unless they've got sprinkles. You guys have fun with your new gadget. BTW, faster rarely equals better. But hey, if it makes your pool journey all warm-n-fuzzy to you, so be it.

GWAR - Where else am I going to learn and know about drills other than an Book, Article, Video or in this case an image of a diagram.
Unless YOU are willing to teach them to me.
I do not know any drills to practice with. As a ball banger I want to get better.
Plus I may be doing the wrong ones.
Please if you would....
Describe the 4-5 drills so that I may use them.
I appreciate your offering to help.

 

[mchnhed]

Hey Garczar.
I actually agree with you in that someone has to play for money to get really good at pool.

I'll bet you that's not true.

 

[mjflanman32]

Hi guys, this is Tom one of the co creators of Projection Pro Billiards. Sorry it took so long to chime in but the registration took awhile for some unknown reason. Anyway, I have been reading the posts and dying to respond but a lot of you completely understand the purpose of the product.

How did the product start?

I am 54 years old, I was at the table using Bullseye Billiards from my Ipad, Looking at the pad then the table then the pad then the table, etc,etc. My son Mike, saw me doing that and said there has to be a better way. that is why it was created.

It does not show you how to aim or use english or where the cue ball is going.
What it does is takes all your drills and drill books and anything else you might have manually put on your table and projects their image so you no longer have to set up every time. You still have to put in the work. But I have been using my system for about 8 months now and I can tell you I still love it. I now enjoy practicing because like many others I would go downstairs look through my books then just bang balls around. Not a good practice method.
Now 2 hours go by and I'm still having fun. (Lot's of choices to work on with just a click of the mouse).

I'm guessing for most people a 1 hour practice session is 20 minutes setting drills and 40 minutes practicing. With our system a 1 hour practice session is 58 minutes of actual practice. Anyway I will answer any questions you may have

Tom

 

[Bobkitty]

Hi guys, this is Tom one of the co creators of Projection Pro Billiards. Sorry it took so long to chime in but the registration took awhile for some unknown reason. Anyway, I have been reading the posts and dying to respond but a lot of you completely understand the purpose of the product.

How did the product start?

I am 54 years old, I was at the table using Bullseye Billiards from my Ipad, Looking at the pad then the table then the pad then the table, etc,etc. My son Mike, saw me doing that and said there has to be a better way. that is why it was created.

It does not show you how to aim or use english or where the cue ball is going.
What it does is takes all your drills and drill books and anything else you might have manually put on your table and projects their image so you no longer have to set up every time. You still have to put in the work. But I have been using my system for about 8 months now and I can tell you I still love it. I now enjoy practicing because like many others I would go downstairs look through my books then just bang balls around. Not a good practice method.
Now 2 hours go by and I'm still having fun. (Lot's of choices to work on with just a click of the mouse).

I'm guessing for most people a 1 hour practice session is 20 minutes setting drills and 40 minutes practicing. With our system a 1 hour practice session is 58 minutes of actual practice. Anyway I will answer any questions you may have

Tom

Hey Tom, I'm glad you are on here. The AZ Billiards will enlighten you! Thanks for your and your son's computer design! I have been doing drills on everything but never the patterns BECAUSE they took so much time to position the balls and so just didn't do them. NOW, I'm doing those all the time with your machine!
Now, can you tell us what instructors will be working with you on developing new projects? ? I think to get everyone interested, you might tell us how your development will be compounded into the future.....

 

[WVShootist]

If a Pool Room were to have one "teaching table"(tm) they could charge a premium price for it's use.
It can still be used as a regular table during extra busy hours.
All the equipment is above head.

This way of projecting images onto the table surface is the future of instruction.
Suggested shot lines using Augmented Reality will add an element of support that can be visualized.

Excellent point!

 

[Moet.1977]

Hi

Hi guys, this is Tom one of the co creators of Projection Pro Billiards. Sorry it took so long to chime in but the registration took awhile for some unknown reason. Anyway, I have been reading the posts and dying to respond but a lot of you completely understand the purpose of the product.

How did the product start?

I am 54 years old, I was at the table using Bullseye Billiards from my Ipad, Looking at the pad then the table then the pad then the table, etc,etc. My son Mike, saw me doing that and said there has to be a better way. that is why it was created.

It does not show you how to aim or use english or where the cue ball is going.
What it does is takes all your drills and drill books and anything else you might have manually put on your table and projects their image so you no longer have to set up every time. You still have to put in the work. But I have been using my system for about 8 months now and I can tell you I still love it. I now enjoy practicing because like many others I would go downstairs look through my books then just bang balls around. Not a good practice method.
Now 2 hours go by and I'm still having fun. (Lot's of choices to work on with just a click of the mouse).

I'm guessing for most people a 1 hour practice session is 20 minutes setting drills and 40 minutes practicing. With our system a 1 hour practice session is 58 minutes of actual practice. Anyway I will answer any questions you may have

Tom

First off welcome to the forum.
Personally I want to thank you for your design, if it will help get the next generation evolved in pool then it's a great thing.
I think new technology is a great way to help get the youth to start playing pool.
Hope you stick around AZ there's a great wealth of knowledge here not to mention some really great people.

 

[BassMasterK]

Hi guys, this is Tom one of the co creators of Projection Pro Billiards. Sorry it took so long to chime in but the registration took awhile for some unknown reason. Anyway, I have been reading the posts and dying to respond but a lot of you completely understand the purpose of the product.

How did the product start?

I am 54 years old, I was at the table using Bullseye Billiards from my Ipad, Looking at the pad then the table then the pad then the table, etc,etc. My son Mike, saw me doing that and said there has to be a better way. that is why it was created.

It does not show you how to aim or use english or where the cue ball is going.
What it does is takes all your drills and drill books and anything else you might have manually put on your table and projects their image so you no longer have to set up every time. You still have to put in the work. But I have been using my system for about 8 months now and I can tell you I still love it. I now enjoy practicing because like many others I would go downstairs look through my books then just bang balls around. Not a good practice method.
Now 2 hours go by and I'm still having fun. (Lot's of choices to work on with just a click of the mouse).

I'm guessing for most people a 1 hour practice session is 20 minutes setting drills and 40 minutes practicing. With our system a 1 hour practice session is 58 minutes of actual practice. Anyway I will answer any questions you may have

Tom

Hi Tom, your product looks pretty amazing. One of the things I have seen a couple people ask is how someone would take a drill from a book and get it into the system. Same thing from a photo of a ball layout, I think it was mentioned that a photo of a table could be converted and displayed.

 

[Bobkitty]

Hi Tom, your product looks pretty amazing. One of the things I have seen a couple people ask is how someone would take a drill from a book and get it into the system. Same thing from a photo of a ball layout, I think it was mentioned that a photo of a table could be converted and displayed.

Hey Bass, I'm sure Tom will answer you but I just uploaded 12-9 ball patterns into my 9 ball folder onto their micro-computer connected to the projector. It's sooo easy. Now I can venture back to these and run them out or reverse them and fold them all by pushing one button. All one has to do is to see the ball layout on the paper, book and enter it into the table using their software and their computer. They just came out with a new program yesterday and it makes it even easier. These guys are up to the task! I love mine!

 

[Bobkitty]

Hey Bass, I'm sure Tom will answer you but I just uploaded 12-9 ball patterns into my 9 ball folder onto their micro-computer connected to the projector. It's sooo easy. Now I can venture back to these and run them out or reverse them and fold them all by pushing one button. All one has to do is to see the ball layout on the paper, book and enter it into the table using their software and their computer. They just came out with a new program yesterday and it makes it even easier. These guys are up to the task! I love mine!

I'll bet the new guys at AZB, projectionprobilliards, will be coming in here.

 

[Bobkitty]

I down loaded Tor's 45 patterns into my micro-computer. It is so much easier to just click on a pattern and it shows up on the pool table versus trying to get the ball positions from a book. If any of you are interested in this, I think Tom and Mike (the developers of ProjectorProBilliards.Com) are on here now and will answer any of your questions.
Also, if anyone knows of important patterns for 9 ball and 10 ball, I'm interested in them and will buy the book or whatever. Thanks.

 

[BassMasterK]

I down loaded Tor's 45 patterns into my micro-computer. It is so much easier to just click on a pattern and it shows up on the pool table versus trying to get the ball positions from a book. If any of you are interested in this, I think Tom and Mike (the developers of ProjectorProBilliards.Com) are on here now and will answer any of your questions.
Also, if anyone knows of important patterns for 9 ball and 10 ball, I'm interested in them and will buy the book or whatever. Thanks.

How did you exactly download the patterns into the computer? I'm trying to envision exactly how this occurs. Do you literally download them (ie.hit a button and it automatically populates the table from some file)? Or are you manually placing ball locations on the table using the mouse like they showed with one video, and then saving that pattern?

Also, let say there is a drill that I have in a book, that has an element of graphics (think bullseye target or squares for cue ball placement). How do you get those from the book to the table? Is this something you can scan in from the book? (Because I would think you would need the background to be clear and not white) Or do you have to draw things by hand? If you are drawing boxes or targets or lines by hand, what do you use to draw them?

I guess the one thing I am still really trying to figure out is how to build custom drills or transfer drills that have graphics and that aren't just putting a ball number on the table like they have already showed.

Thanks for any info. Again, this looks pretty dang amazing and it is on my list of things to include in my new game room once it is built.

 

[iusedtoberich]

I wonder if it could be possible to broadcast a pro match on the table itself, as a video. Then you pause it, and try to duplicate their shots. That would be fun.

 

[fastone371]

A healthy dose of playing people you can't currently beat is highly recommended as well. All the drills in the world(hi or lo tech) will not prepare you for what you'll need when someone is smoking you. I wish you well in your pursuit.

Yeah cause sitting in your chair watching your opponent run out on you really helps my game. If I wanna watch players run out I can just watch videos all day. Nothing helps your game like actually setting up shots until you get them right especially when you add multiple positioning to the mix.

 

[mchnhed]

A healthy dose of playing people you can't currently beat is highly recommended as well. All the drills in the world(hi or lo tech) will not prepare you for what you'll need when someone is smoking you. I wish you well in your pursuit.

The last time you were in a Pool Hall I came up to you and asked you for advice and a game.
You laughed in my face, called me a Nit and said I wasn't good enough to play against you.
What am I to learn from that?

 

[Bobkitty]

Just posted 20+ more nine ball pattern videos to the micro computer/ projector. Sooo much easier than laying these out via paper drills. I'm loading patterns that have special cue ball run out patterns so that i can learn them. If any of you have patterns that SVB or some other pro has run out, please let me know about them or you could send them to me via email. There are about 3-4 ways to load these drills/ patterns up onto the micro computer; You can lay them out on the table and the micro computer will pick them up or you can load them on your computer and the micro computer software will load them up. If any of you drill and do pattern work on your tables at home, this is the machine for you. Projectorprobilliards.com. They will answer your questions.

Here is a picture of a pattern that I just put on. Can you imagine how easy the balls lay out versus you using a paper pattern????

 

[Meucciplayer]

Hi,

I'm new here at AZB.

Question: Would this also work on a 7 ft. table? (Don't have room for a larger one, sadly).