think about this- If you were going to develope champion pool players...
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How would you set up the tables?
Slow cloth to force strong strokes? Fast cloth for touch?
Tight pockets for accuracy? Large pocket to allow "cheating the pocket" for
Shape?
Which size table?
You only get 1 table.
Like golf, changing conditions. Not always perfect. That used to be the most impressive thing about the road player. They beat players on their own tables. The all around player who plays all games on all equipment. That is a pool player.
I think the cream rises to the top regardless of the equipment.
you got it right!
I'm not so sure about that slow felt making you have a better stroke..., Buddy Hall just stayed on the right side of the ball and used the angle/rails to get where he wanted..,
I'm not so sure about that slow felt making you have a better stroke..., Buddy Hall just stayed on the right side of the ball and used the angle/rails to get where he wanted..,
How would you set up the table?
Slow cloth to force strong strokes? Fast cloth for touch?
Tight pockets for accuracy? Large pocket to allow "cheating the pocket" for
Shape?
Which size table?
You only get 1 table.
Following this concept, you would be setting up the player to lose.
You cannot limit the playing conditions and expect someone to know how to adjust when the time comes.
Knowing how to make adjustments is part of training.
Put them on the table they will most compete on and make them play until their fingers bleed. Give them band aids and make them play some more.
Don't scrimp on equipment. Get them a Diamond Blue Label 9 footer (Pro or ProAm) and a decent set of high end balls. Pro cut pockets (4.5") or tighten them slightly. They will know how to reliably run racks when the equipment works the way it's supposed to...then they can always adjust down to dirty/aged balls, bigger pockets, slower cloth, smaller spaces. Develop them on perfect conditions, then expose them to worse ones. The other way around teaches bad habits, over-stroking shots, etc.
Don't scrimp on equipment. Get them a Diamond Blue Label 9 footer (Pro or ProAm) and a decent set of high end balls. Pro cut pockets (4.5") or tighten them slightly. They will know how to reliably run racks when the equipment works the way it's supposed to...then they can always adjust down to dirty/aged balls, bigger pockets, slower cloth, smaller spaces. Develop them on perfect conditions, then expose them to worse ones. The other way around teaches bad habits, over-stroking shots, etc.
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Easy
Diamond 9 ft.
4.25" pockets
FAST cloth (Touch and speed control are the most difficult aspects of the game to master)
A powerful stroke can be developed on any table with any cloth pretty easily with one shot.
Make em shoot these two shots until the can draw their rock all the way back and forth for almost two table lengths. They will be able to see what english they are accidently imparting on the cue ball as soon as it comes back to the rail they are shooting from.
PS dont know what happened to the cloth lol
Diamond 9 ft.
4.25" pockets
FAST cloth (Touch and speed control are the most difficult aspects of the game to master)
A powerful stroke can be developed on any table with any cloth pretty easily with one shot.
Make em shoot these two shots until the can draw their rock all the way back and forth for almost two table lengths. They will be able to see what english they are accidently imparting on the cue ball as soon as it comes back to the rail they are shooting from.
PS dont know what happened to the cloth lol
I agree.., but,
Sounds good, but 4.25'' pockets are to tight for good consistent practice, great for practicing shot making, not so great for working on position play where cheating the pocket is necessary.
P.S. Where did you get that cloth
Sounds good, but 4.25'' pockets are to tight for good consistent practice, great for practicing shot making, not so great for working on position play where cheating the pocket is necessary.
P.S. Where did you get that cloth
Sounds good, but 4.25'' pockets are to tight for good consistent practice, great for practicing shot making, not so great for working on position play where cheating the pocket is necessary.
P.S. Where did you get that cloth
A couple friends who are pros play on a diamond with 4" pockets. Its the same table I play on and for a very good reason. It forces me to play on the right side of the ball a tight position or I miss. Its a helluva table for one pocket but a really tough rotation table.
I think that if you can play position on a tight table and pocket balls consistently, then cheating pockets on a table with bigger pockets should pose no issue.
Special order
You might be right..,
You make a good point, but when I played at Hollywood Billiards a while back after the tables were set up with those 4.25'' pockets, 9 Ball and 10 Ball were out of the question. Not that I'm a straight shooter, but I can run out when its there..., not at Hollywood. A few of the guys I played looked like champs at other places, I got plenty of shots when we played at Hollywood...,
Just wish I could have made a few more,
A couple friends who are pros play on a diamond with 4" pockets. Its the same table I play on and for a very good reason. It forces me to play on the right side of the ball a tight position or I miss. Its a helluva table for one pocket but a really tough rotation table.
I think that if you can play position on a tight table and pocket balls consistently, then cheating pockets on a table with bigger pockets should pose no issue.
Special order
You make a good point, but when I played at Hollywood Billiards a while back after the tables were set up with those 4.25'' pockets, 9 Ball and 10 Ball were out of the question. Not that I'm a straight shooter, but I can run out when its there..., not at Hollywood. A few of the guys I played looked like champs at other places, I got plenty of shots when we played at Hollywood...,
Just wish I could have made a few more,
I would set up a table with one generous corner pocket in the foot rail. One very tight side pocket. And tight-poorly shimmed pocketgs at the head of the table. I want the table lightning fast. Prefer some roll off especiallu at the tight corners&side.
A good set of balls(kept clean), and a mismatched set"never cleaned".
5 different cue balls.
Plenty of learning, adjusting,and thoughtfull pattern play, could be had.
A good set of balls(kept clean), and a mismatched set"never cleaned".
5 different cue balls.
Plenty of learning, adjusting,and thoughtfull pattern play, could be had.
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