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Scott Lee said:
spoons...One of the great myths out there, is that you have to have your chin on the cue (ala Allison Fisher), or under your 'dominant eye'. That's complete baloney. If you LIKE that cue position, then fine. However, many people simply don't "see" the shot properly when they're down too low...just like many people don't see the shot in a way they believe is 'right', with the cue under their dominant eye. The truth is, it doesn't matter how high or low your head is, over the cue...as long as the cue is level. Also, it doesn't matter if the cue is lined up under your chin, or your dominant eye. What matters is where the cue is when you PERCEIVE a straight line to the aim point on the OB. As long as YOU know where that is...and you've got a repeatable stroke...all will be well! :D

Scott Lee
www.poolknowledge.com


Hmmmm...with all due respect Scott I think that you comments are a little mis-leading or perhaps I am not understanding them correctly.

Perception of a straight line can be just that..a perception and not always a good straight set up.

I believe that players can think they are set up square but not be due to the "parallax" thing . They may think they are set up square but are not really.

I site this from example from my own experience years ago...I thought I was setting up squared (cue straight along the extended aim line that runs through your back foot, or body, (or whatever depending on your particular address positioning)

When I set up to what I thought was square, the but of my cue was outside the aim line and the tip was on the aim line. It was not until I had a instructor...(Don Rose) notice while I was taking some shots and said to me "Do you know you set up with a crooked cue?"

Of course at the time I had no idea it was crooked...He said it was (and showed me) and said that I had a compensation built into my stroke to correct the cue path as it struck the CB...

In my particular case I was able to achive a cue that was straight along the aim line by positioning the cue under my dominant eye instead of under my chin (like I was doing)

Don showed me a method to check that alignment on my own and I have used it ever since...

What I am getting at is that it DOES matter where the cue is placed. For some it may be under your chin, for some it may be under your dominant eye...depends on your particuar way of "seeing the world I guess"

If you don't get it in the right place, you may end up with a crooked cue.

I would think that if you wan't to have the most chance for a repeatable stroke you would want to find a method for set up that ensures a cue placement directly along the aim line.
 
Ken...The cue should line up under your face, where you PERCEIVE a straight lilne to the shot (then you have to be able to deliver the cue in that perceived straight line). That may or may not be, under your dominant eye, or even under your face (ala Earl and Niels, who play with the cue outside their head). My comments are not misleading at all.

Scott Lee
www.poolknowledge.com

BRKNRUN said:
Hmmmm...with all due respect Scott I think that you comments are a little mis-leading or perhaps I am not understanding them correctly.

Perception of a straight line can be just that..a perception and not always a good straight set up.

I believe that players can think they are set up square but not be due to the "parallax" thing . They may think they are set up square but are not really.

I site this from example from my own experience years ago...I thought I was setting up squared (cue straight along the extended aim line that runs through your back foot, or body, (or whatever depending on your particular address positioning)

When I set up to what I thought was square, the but of my cue was outside the aim line and the tip was on the aim line. It was not until I had a instructor...(Don Rose) notice while I was taking some shots and said to me "Do you know you set up with a crooked cue?"

Of course at the time I had no idea it was crooked...He said it was (and showed me) and said that I had a compensation built into my stroke to correct the cue path as it struck the CB...

In my particular case I was able to achive a cue that was straight along the aim line by positioning the cue under my dominant eye instead of under my chin (like I was doing)

Don showed me a method to check that alignment on my own and I have used it ever since...

What I am getting at is that it DOES matter where the cue is placed. For some it may be under your chin, for some it may be under your dominant eye...depends on your particuar way of "seeing the world I guess"

If you don't get it in the right place, you may end up with a crooked cue.

I would think that if you wan't to have the most chance for a repeatable stroke you would want to find a method for set up that ensures a cue placement directly along the aim line.
 
Ken, it sounded to me like Scott was just saying that it doesn't really matter where your cue is lined up in relation to your body. What's more important is that it's positioned so that you and your body can make an accurate, repeatable stroke.

Scott, thanks! A full 4 seconds of pause seems like an awful long time to be down over a shot standing still. It'll certainly be different from what I'm used to. But, far be it from me to argue with science. I'm willing to give it a try.

Are there any pros out there who you can point us to as an example of this?

Thanks!
 
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