Those of you that use backhand english..

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erikido

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Are there certain shots that you find the bhe system needs adjustments.

If so what are the adjustments you seem to make?


Seems to me on backcuts you need to make a minor adjustment. I overcut all the time if I just find the hit spot and apply bhe. I was experimenting the other day and found that if I looked at the shot I could see there was an adjustment that would be needed to be made just making the ball without any english because of throw. So I would find that spot THEN I would apply the bhe and it seemed to work more consistently. Hopefully that made sense.


Thoughts?
 
I've been messing with it for the first time. Thank you whoever started posting about BHE/FHE. This stuff is great! I never thought about applying english that way. I've noticed that shots that are half ball to 3/4 ball I don't have to adjust so much, but more extreme cuts I try to adjust a little more away from the object ball to account for the throw. This is for back cutting. For hitting balls with inside...you got me. I am having a lot more trouble with this. But what has been working for me is using a little of both FH & BH. It gets more extreme when I add more speed. But all in all, it's still feel & should be practiced. I noticed great improvement with rail shots requring some spin & even straight ins; I line the ball straight in & use a tiny bit of BHE either way & it seems to guide the ball in perfectly. Or maybe my stroke sucks. Also for me I've noticed more consistent hits applying english for 3 cushion billard shots. I wish I knew about this a long time ago.
 
This is a complex question, because it depends on the reason you are using spin.

If you are using CB spin to prevent OB throw ("gearing english") then your aim point for the shot does not have to be adjusted. Depending on the shot, you may need to adjust for CB swerve so that you can hit the aim point.

If you are using outside CB spin for position play, the amount of spin used will likely exceed "gearing", and cause the OB to go short of the pocket. In this case you have to adjust how you aim the shot (lessen the cut angle), as well as compensate for CB swerve.

Personally, I like gearing english, and for large cut angles, it will often give you the desired spin for position play of the OB off the rail. So when gearing english suffices, use it.

This explaination will probably have the physics guys rolling their eyes, but it is how I look at it.
 
Seems to me on backcuts you need to make a minor adjustment.
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A backcut is no different from any other cut - it's just at a different position on the table (looking away from the rail rather than toward it). So it's a visualization issue, not an execution issue - you should adjust your aim, not your English.
I could see there was an adjustment that would be needed to be made just making the ball without any english because of throw.
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Again, a cut is just a cut - the amount of throw depends on the cut angle and speed, not on whether or not it's a "backcut". You need to adjust your aim because the shot looks different to you, not because it has different throw.

AIMING TIP:

The main difference between backcuts and other cuts is that there's no nearby rail behind the OB to show you the direction to the pocket. So a useful trick for aiming backcuts is to "replace" the rail by imagining one right behind the OB pointing to the pocket. Sounds a little nutty, but this often helps to see where to hit the OB. It even helps on non-backcuts where the OB is farther from the rail (this is why OBs in the middle of the table can be harder to aim).

The rail behind the OB is an important visual "cue" - I find OBs on or near the rail much easier to aim.

pj
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erikido said:
Are there certain shots that you find the bhe system needs adjustments.
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Pure BHE, with a fixed bridge length (at the natural pivot length of the cue), works perfectly only for short and/or fast shots. For longer slower shots with follow, FHE is more effective. For every other shot, a combination of BHE and FHE, or a change in bridge length with BHE is required. For more info, including video demos, see:


erikido said:
Seems to me on backcuts you need to make a minor adjustment. I overcut all the time if I just find the hit spot and apply bhe.
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People tend to overcut backcuts, with or without BHE. For more info, see:

Regards,
Dave
 
dr_dave said:
Pure BHE, with a fixed bridge length (at the natural pivot length of the cue), works perfectly only for short and/or fast shots. For longer slower shots with follow, FHE is more effective. For every other shot, a combination of BHE and FHE, or a change in bridge length with BHE is required. For more info, including video demos, see:


People tend to overcut backcuts, with or without BHE. For more info, see:

Regards,
Dave
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those are some instructive videos and thanks to all
 
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