Thoughts on phones for calling fouls

Fuji-whopper

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Didn't see anything when I searched for keywords, but what do you guys/girls think about using a phone camera to help call hits when a referee is called to watch a hit. We're all fallible and perhaps the video backup would help aid more accurate calls.........what is your opinion?


Neil
 
Fuji-whopper said:
Didn't see anything when I searched for keywords, but what do you guys/girls think about using a phone camera to help call hits when a referee is called to watch a hit. We're all fallible and perhaps the video backup would help aid more accurate calls.........what is your opinion?


Neil
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I think it's great, but only if you have a phone that takes high speed video so you can see it in slow motion.

There's just too much motion blur if the camera is shooting at 30 fps to get a definitive answer for most shots.
 
The iPhone 6 has a 240fps camera in it. I've used it a few times to 'referee' shots. Works fine and usually attracts a crowd lol.
 
If you're gonna call the referee when a foul occurs better make sure he keeps his phone on during the tourney.
 
Tony Robles uses his phone when he watches hits during his tournaments. He uses one of the several sports/coaching video apps that gives you a bit more control over the playback than the stock camera software in the phone. I sometimes get called to watch hits and sometimes there's a disagreement, so I've been trying to remember to use my phone when I get called again.
 
Fuji-whopper said:
Didn't see anything when I searched for keywords, but what do you guys/girls think about using a phone camera to help call hits when a referee is called to watch a hit. We're all fallible and perhaps the video backup would help aid more accurate calls.........what is your opinion?


Neil
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Hmmmm...a new way of playing call shots
 
Not personally a fan of instant replay for pool. I don't mind so much with other sports, where the other guy's actions and other things not under you control might be significant, but you're generally in complete control when you're shooting pool. With some rare exceptions where you're really snookered and the only possible legal shot forces you to come very close to fouling, if you end up shooting in a way that flirts with a foul, it's you're own fault. Along with that, I think refs should generally err on the side of calling the foul if it's so close that you can really go either way.

I just don't think we need anything else to slow down and interrupt the flow of the game. I'm not a 15 second shot clock guy, but I also don't want to see it turn into yet another head buried in the cell phone activity.

Just my opinion.
 
I think it's a judgement call and this approach will only needlessly slow down an already slow pace of play in tournaments and especially in leagues....... opposing captains will to take their own video as well because maybe the referee's camera might have a bad angle.........you see this in baseball all the time.....the runner looks out on 3 different cameras and then you see it from a different camera angle and the runner is safe.

This will only impede the pace of play that is already very slow and I wonder why implementation of shot clocks hasn't been adopted for pool leagues and more localized tournaments as well. A player should be allowed to ask for a shot clock on his opponent when he is taking too long.......local tournaments take way too long to complete in my opinion and APA leagues et al are just absurdly slow.

Matt B.
 
You bring up a couple of good points, but I for one wouldn't mind waiting for the correct call rather than a hastily made incorrect call. Now I'm as impatient as the next guy and if you watch any of the videos of me playing you know slow play isn't in my dictionary but I want the RIGHT call I don't care if it takes a little longer or how they come to that conclusion. A badly called foul can change the outcome of a match, besides how many times have you seen a very obvious bad call with no way to dispute it?


Neil
 
If you're going to pull a phone out to record a hit, I'll use mine to time you on a 20 second shot clock.
 
Still not seeing any official word on what the rules/interpretation allows (or not) for this.

If there is no obvious rule, I say go for it. It takes all of 5 seconds to take my phone out of my pocket and hit the Camera button. I'd rather live with that minor delay than get a bad call.
 
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