so i want a low deflection shaft for my schon and i have decided pretty much on the tiger x or the ob1.. what do you guys think is better? what feels more solid like a schon instead of that hollow predator feel?
tigerx vs ob1
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Hit is subjective. My personal experience and opinion is that OB1 has a very soft and quiet hit, while the Tiger X shaft is very solid.
I personally do not like to have a pad between the tip and the ferrule, I feel that it kind of softens the hit.
I was told by a OB 1 dealer that the pad is required to keep the wood ferrule from breaking.
I just think that if they put a pad there to prevent the ferrule from breaking, it would seem to me that they must had some of these wood ferrules broke on them before.
I like the ferrule on the Tiger shaft, it is strong, and clean. I also like the idea that the company allows me, as a customer, to decide if I want to put a pad between my tip and my ferrule, knowing that each and every player may have a different preference.
If pro endorsement means anything to you,, I have seen a lot of pro players using the X shaft, but not yet seen anyone with the OB 1 except Dee Adkin. But then, OB 1 is a small company and is still new.
The above is just my own personal opinion. I have tried both shafts, and have known players who play with them. I have heard great things about both products.
Richard
I personally do not like to have a pad between the tip and the ferrule, I feel that it kind of softens the hit.
I was told by a OB 1 dealer that the pad is required to keep the wood ferrule from breaking.
I just think that if they put a pad there to prevent the ferrule from breaking, it would seem to me that they must had some of these wood ferrules broke on them before.
I like the ferrule on the Tiger shaft, it is strong, and clean. I also like the idea that the company allows me, as a customer, to decide if I want to put a pad between my tip and my ferrule, knowing that each and every player may have a different preference.
If pro endorsement means anything to you,, I have seen a lot of pro players using the X shaft, but not yet seen anyone with the OB 1 except Dee Adkin. But then, OB 1 is a small company and is still new.
The above is just my own personal opinion. I have tried both shafts, and have known players who play with them. I have heard great things about both products.
Richard
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I haven't tried the X shaft yet, but I use an ob-1. I'd say I love it. The only thing I didn't like was that it wasn't as "pretty" as a predator 314. My ob-1 is noticeably darker than my cousins 314, and you can see a lot of vertical lines. But performance wise, it works for me.(although I'm interested in trying out the X sahft and a Universal smart shaft)
X Breaker said:
Shane van boening plays with an ob-1.
I play with an OB1 on my Schon and I love the hit.
I've never hit with a Tiger X so I can't say about that shaft.
I've never hit with a Tiger X so I can't say about that shaft.
what do you guys think of the 314-2 in comparison to these 2? does it have the same hollow hit as the old ones?
worriedbeef said:
That is a misrepresentation.
Though the Ob-1 site says so, it is quite factual that he does not play with one of their shafts. He plays with his Joss cue that has "Shane" in the forearm with the original Joss shaft.
Pic taken just Friday
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Yup, Shane no longer uses the OB-1.
worriedbeef said:
I did not want to get into this, but since this comment was directed to me, I will try to share with you what I have personally seen and known.
As others have mentioned, on the OB1 site, they use present tense to represent Shane as a pro using the OB-1 shaft now. I have seen Shane played about three feet away from me in person many times. I believe the first time I paid attention to his cue was last year in May during the BCA, he was using a regular one piece shaft, which I believe to be one made by Joss.
It was very obvious, since that shaft had a white ferrule. He was gambling with many people and players were watching him in the open table area. His cue had his name inlaid on the forearm in big block letters, his shaft had a white ferrule.
In the last year alone (2006), I saw him on the IPT, the US Open, the Derby and pretty much everywhere, and I have never seen him using anything else but that shaft with a white ferrule.
I have also talked to him, and found him to be very professional and a real nice guy.
I also had the pleasure to meet his friend Brian. Shane wanted to match up with my friend and I was acting as my friend's translator during the US Open.
I cannot say I know Shane well. I have never asked him about the OB-1, since I know he has no control on what others put on their web site, and I did not consider it an important or significant issue.
I have never mentioned this, until it has been mentioned by others. From my point of view, it is obvious that he does not play with that shaft. If anyone would pay attention to any pictures taken of Shane, he can tell his shaft is a clean one piece looking shaft, without all the dark grains and shades found on the laminations of the OB-1. It is rather obvious that the ferrule is white. I believe the OB-1 people would notice it, if they pay attention.
It must have been at least about a year since they claimed Shane was playing with the OB-1 while he was not.
I know players change their cues all the time, but I believe Shane has been quite faithful to his cue and shaft from what I have seen, which is a very rare and nice thing.
He may have the OB-1 still in his case though. I know they give shafts away to players for free, like Predator. From what I have gathered, if a player does not like it, he will not use it. It is unfortunate, but true.
From what I understand, a good shaft is very important for a player who plays for lots of money and does it full time, so he has to be completely confident in it. May be Shane is more comfortable to use what he has been used to? I don't know.
I am not saying the OB-1 is not good or anything, like I stated before, I believe it is a personal choice.
I am just responding to the post saying that Shane is playing with an OB-1 shaft according to the OB-1 site, which I believe has not been true for at least about a year, or may be longer. I am not saying OB-1 misrepresents or misleads their customers. I am not here to pass judgement; just trying to share info as I know them to those who asked.
I am not working at Tiger or a dealer of either product. I have my own company and they are not my competitor. I am just trying to state my opinion, and the facts as I know them.
As always, this is meant to be constructive and helpful, I hope I did not offend anyone. Thank you.
Regards,
Richard
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well.
Shane Van Boening obviously doesn't play with an OB-1!
lol i thought you were unaware that he played with one so i just pointed it out. although i was just going by the obcues website. i suppose they're in no hurry to remove a well known player who no longer seems to use their shaft all the time.
Shane Van Boening obviously doesn't play with an OB-1!
lol i thought you were unaware that he played with one so i just pointed it out. although i was just going by the obcues website. i suppose they're in no hurry to remove a well known player who no longer seems to use their shaft all the time.
i have an ob-1 and a 314-z. I have to say the ob-1 definitely lets me get alot more spin on the cueball, although it does feel dead to me. The z-2 is ok, but it too feels odd, and doesnt produce the spin for me the ob-1 does. My best feeling shafts are my originial schon shafts. Ive never tried the tiger.....i was planning on it, but after picking up these 2 I just didnt see the point, ive got like 6 shafts for my schon already lol.
worriedbee said:
I understand. Actually, I was very awared.
Like I said, I have never seen Shane using the OB-1 in person, nor have I seen any picture of him in any major tournament using one for over a year.It is none of my business how they decide to run their business at OB-1; therefore, I have never said anything about this whenever an OB-1 thread came up. If Corey did not say anything, I would have kept quiet. They can choose whichever way they see fit to market their product at OB-1, I am sure customers will know eventually anyway.
Richard
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scottycoyote said:
I'm surprised you would say that you get more spin with an OB-1 than a Z-2. The smaller diameter and taper of the Z-2 generally leads to effortless spin and lots of it. In fact, most of the time I hear people complaining that they can't control their shots with a Z and accidentally apply too much spin. Personally, I find it really easy to juice up the ball with a Z shaft.
I used to play with 314 but now play with OB-1. I've hit with many different OB-1 shafts with different tips, and also tried different tips on the same shafts. The tip makes a dramatic affect on the feel/hit. Try a different (especially harder) tip than usual and see what you think. It's night and day.
As for the original question (Tiger X versus OB-1) the X shaft isn't especially low deflection, but has a nice feel/hit. I prefer low deflection shafts, hence why I used 314 and now OB-1.
