Time for it's own thread...

Sorry great list but most don't have access to any of those names. Neither do players overseas. Most don't have the time or money it would take to learn from someone. You can learn with all the info out there. You just need to put in the time. Do you know how to play english. How to apply English in different way. How to grip and change your grip for different shots. Now set up shots and move the rock around the table. If it's not doing what you expect . Try something new. Self discovery is a wonderful thing. Look for amazing shots. Now work your butt off until you can do it.
 
Exactly, and don't you think that if someone was able to relate to you what you yourself have developed when working through things that it would've helped you to get where you are faster???

Everything that I know I learned and taught myself with the exception of BHE (as it was taught to me by Efren, without any mention of pivot point).

I was taught SOME minimal stuff by my father who was a road player in the 60's out of Louisville, but I didn't really pay much attention when he was trying to relay things to me. In retrospect, I wish I had.

I also wish that I had access growing up to the internet and all of the tools and connections with other players that we are given today.

Jaden

Yes. It would have helped.

Just to be clear. The HAMB that I reference here was not just rote ball banging as everyone seems to imply. It was shooting, thinking, experimenting and doing drills to improve play.
 
Sometimes I wonder if people ever stop to think what HAMB means. To me it means stumbling around in the dark until you luck into finding something that works. Maybe it means make every mistake until you find something that works.

To me this implies that you do not have to burn your fingers on the stove to prove to yourself that it will burn. Some things you can learn from others without all the pain.
 
what worked for me

I came up playing in the 80s and learned the game cutting my teeth in 2 dollar ring games at the corner pocket in Beaumont Texas , these games were with some of the strongest players in the area who happily relieved me of several hundred dollars 2 bucks at a time but they also taught me a lot.

When I stopped playing for several years in my late 20s through late 30s ( marriage seems to do this to a lot of players ) I lost most all my feel for the games my cues played strange , my stroke was gone , as well as my consistency , my only consistency was missing balls

I went to a friend who was a pool hall owner and one of the stronger players in the area to help me get back in stroke , Tom Parker worked with me showing me my mistakes , glitches in my follow through , grip position and probably 100 little other things I did not realize I was doing ,

I hit a lot of balls and drills to get the feel back but those sessions with Tom brought my game up at least two balls higher than it was when I was playing my best in the late 80s and early 90s

You don't have to go to a touring pro to benefit from some lessons there are a lot of great players out there who are willing to help you out if you look around . Even if its just watching run 10-20 racks and helping you spot flaws in your fundamentals.

I Think Pool Instruction can benefit players of any speed

Just my Opinion
 
Sometimes I wonder if people ever stop to think what HAMB means. To me it means stumbling around in the dark until you luck into finding something that works. Maybe it means make every mistake until you find something that works.

To me this implies that you do not have to burn your fingers on the stove to prove to yourself that it will burn. Some things you can learn from others without all the pain.

To me HAMB means putting in table time figuring out what works and what doesn't. BUT you can spend a lot of time trying to do that and never really understand what doesn't work. You can HAMB your way into being a pretty good player with bad habits but be really stuck because you essentially forced your way into making those bad habits work enough to reach a level that marks you as a player who can get out but doesn't always get out when you should.

What is a shortcut? Simple, it's a shorter path to success. So when someone gives you knowledge that helps you reach a level in a shorter amount of time that's a shortcut.
 
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