Tip-comparison

DougT

Illustrated Principles
Tip-Comparison Chart
I've had questions about tips, and while reading the feedback and comments, I've been assembling a rough summary of data from manufacturers and other websites. It seems like a good day to share it, and I hope it is helpful. I know I found it interesting, and is a little give-back to the community. I'm sure I've left off plenty and if more info is forwarded to me, I'll try to update the chart.

If you want to search this thread in the future, 'tip-comparison' is a keyword for title search.

This sheet has data is collected from the websites listed below, and I give props to them all, especially Mueller's.
http://www.poolndarts.com/471-Leather-Tips-Individual/

I cannot guarantee accuracy, it's just info that I've gathered. If you would like the spreadsheet I'll send it on request.
DougT
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Ok...you have the Moori soft as listed softer than a Sniper. Not quite so.
Take the same shaft...install a new S Moori...play some. Then cut it off & install a Sniper...you'll agree the Sniper hits/plays softer than the Moori.
 
DougT said:
I'm sure I've left off plenty and if more info is forwarded to me, I'll try to update the chart.
Doug,

All of the Tweeten tips are made from water buffalo. I don't know if tanning process is important to anyone, but it couldn't hurt. Especially for the single-layered tips.

Fred
 
DISCLAIMER; Not responsible for accuracy! Simply accumulated data.

LePro is on there CaptainHook; made by Tweeten.

Varney, the 'hardness rating' came from Mueller. I'm certain there'll be plenty of disagreement with those ratings. It's just a place to start and compare.


I wonder what difference the feel is with different animal leathers; Pig, boar, water buffalo, cow/calfskin, and 'cold-weather pig'.
 
Tweeten

Cornerman said:
All of the Tweeten tips are made from water buffalo. I don't know if tanning process is important to anyone, but it couldn't hurt. Especially for the single-layered tips.
Fred, are ALL Tweeten brands water buffalo? I always thought that is used to make harder tips. The information in the chart is from the Tweeten site, or their labels. I found it interesting that many of their tips are 'pressed and shaped', or 'turned and pressed'.
 
DougT said:
Fred, are ALL Tweeten brands water buffalo? I always thought that is used to make harder tips. The information in the chart is from the Tweeten site, or their labels. I found it interesting that many of their tips are 'pressed and shaped', or 'turned and pressed'.

The majority of players don't realize that ALL Tweeten brands of tips are
made from water buffalo. I'd give you the old "from a very reliable source," but I won't. My source is Skip Nemecek (President of Tweeten Fibre Company in Chicago) whom I interviewed for the tips article I did.

http://home.comcast.net/~ohagnir1/TipSept2004.pdf

The relative hardness of each tip is determined by the various processing including tanning and compression. LePros are pressed into their final shape, while Triangle for example is pressed first, then have their dome turned.

Fred
 
off topic sorta

Are Elk Master the only blue colored tips. I recently bought a cue and it has a blue tip on it, however it's quite hard. A lot harder than what I would imagine an elk master would feel like. I normally shoot with a triangle and it isn't to far off that.
 
supergreenman said:
Are Elk Master the only blue colored tips. I recently bought a cue and it has a blue tip on it, however it's quite hard. A lot harder than what I would imagine an elk master would feel like. I normally shoot with a triangle and it isn't to far off that.


sounds like you have a Blue Knight,,I prefer them to Elkmaster,,,JMHO
 
Cornerman said:
The majority of players don't realize that ALL Tweeten brands of tips are
made from water buffalo. I'd give you the old "from a very reliable source," but I won't. My source is Skip Nemecek (President of Tweeten Fibre Company in Chicago) whom I interviewed for the tips article I did.

http://home.comcast.net/~ohagnir1/TipSept2004.pdf

The relative hardness of each tip is determined by the various processing including tanning and compression. LePros are pressed into their final shape, while Triangle for example is pressed first, then have their dome turned.

Fred

I know that was two years ago, but surprisingly we were never contacted for that article. Interestingly we are the only laminated cue tip manufacturer in the US and arguably the best in the world. :rolleyes:
 
the best tip ive found is the tiger dynamite.........if you havent tried one you are missing out..just my opinion
 
CrownCityCorey said:
I know that was two years ago, but surprisingly we were never contacted for that article.
Absolutely false, my friend. I spoke directly to Tony on the phone. At least half an hour, (maybe an hour?). Edit: couldn't have been an hour. My cuemaker interviews don't last that long.

I also interviewed Skip during a visit to Chicago, e-mailed many times with Tony Jones at Talisman, and got as much information I could from a Japanese connection for the Moori information.

Fred
 
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jamesroberts said:
the best tip ive found is the tiger dynamite.........if you havent tried one you are missing out..just my opinion

The Dynamites will mushroom a couple of times on you and will need to be trimmed up. If you like that "hit"...try the Everest.;) Same company (Tiger) and a quite a bit better tip.
 
Varney Cues said:
The Dynamites will mushroom a couple of times on you and will need to be trimmed up. If you like that "hit"...try the Everest.;) Same company (Tiger) and a quite a bit better tip.


And more expensive. But the sniper is a bit harder than a moori soft. I like a tip to be quite hard and found the sniper to be suitable. A little soft for me but It was definitley harder than a Moori Soft. Just because it plays softer doesn't mean it is.

Tony
 
The Sniper "hits" softer & gives tons more spin than the soft Moori. As to if the tip is actually harder than the soft Moori...maybe Corey can help us out.
 
CaptainHook said:
Thank you.:)

Gave you rep points, this is the best thread ever.:rolleyes:
Thank you for taking the time to put that spreadsheet together.:D
LOL, thank you

A few comments have been updated.
 
I don't understand why Tiger's website has the Snipers listed as Med-Hard which is harder than the Everest and Mueller's has them rated almost the same as the Tiger Soft. I know they use a different hardness rating but I'm talking about relative hardness not the absolute numbers. Everybody says they play soft too. Any opnions?
 
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