Tip installation question

I'm not. I'm just saying that forums like this shelter alot of people from the real world. The real world is not full of Kevin Varneys sitting in the corner waiting to put a tip on your cue. It's full of regular people in the business doing basic typical repairs and the like. That's the reality that most people live in.

You ask how a person is to know what a good tip job is , I ask how is that person to know a 'True Professional'. These same people who think $30+ is too much to have a tip installed in the first place.

I also don't believe it take hundreds of tips to learn how to do it. No where near that IMO. Seriously , it's not much more than removing the old tip , cleaning the surface and glueing the new tip on. After 2 or 3 most people should have a pretty good idea if they are at all handy.

Sure you can scuff ferrule. Sure you could delam a tip but it's not rocket science. Some people can't drive a nail into a 2x4 but some people can and don't find it that hard to do. ;)

IMO. :)

Cuedog said:
You are mistaking a pro pretender with a qualified professional. I said a professional and that's what I mean. No loose terms there.

I'll also clear up what I mean by practice. Practice is doing a couple hundred house cues with the same care that you would use with a custom cue. Practice is always looking for a better way or a more refined way of completing an install by doing hundreds of tips over a period of time. Knowing which ones to throw away because they don't meet standards even before gluing them to the shaft. Or, if you have glued a bad tip to a shaft, having the experience to know that it is a bad tip simply because of the way it cuts or shapes for you. And if you know it's a bad tip, having the integrity to replace it even though you are installing it for a low level player that may not know the difference. All they know is that it LOOKS GOOD.

That's practice. That's professionalism.

Gene
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Holy smokers, I think we have ourselves a veritable tipping war :)

Can we all agree on this: It's possible to do a very good job tipping by hand but its more work and takes a lot longer than tipping with a lathe. ( think about it this way... the egyptians built the pyramids with primative tools by today's standards... )

But wait, I don't think we can have a tipping war without someone talking about how well snipers play (come-on you know someone's going to post it)... so pre-emtively I'll say this... I love the wayl Kamui soft tips play and hold up :)
 
I have done most of my work on everything I own or have owned from race cars to skydiving. I do it fro two reasons. Enjoyment of doing it myself and saving some bucks. Some people/cuemakers/cue repair folks might get bent but when I asked a guy how much he wanted to replace the tip on my cue and said 50.00 40.00 if I supply the tip I about choked. I decided to do it myself. After researching it on here and the internet I had no trouble.
As far as the Porper tip tool I ordered one, along with several other tools and sent them back the first time I used them. They did not perform as advertised.

Read my post on this link along with pictures of my finished tips. This post was meant to be a satirical as well informational but I have received a couple of PM's that were less than nice shall we say?

Dont let folks fool you. You can do your own tips with some research and practice once or twice on a clunky old shaft or house cue.

http://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?t=78667&page=2
 
tipping

First, lemme just say if you have someone to do your tips that does work you like then go with them. You're paying for their experience and quality workmanship.

But not everyone has the time, money, or access to a good repairman. And if you're playing a lot you can wear down tips relatively fast. And, like the OP said, he likes to work with his hands.

You can absolutely do your own tips by hand. Be a perfectionist and take your time. I had a tip done by a PRO that travels with a tour and when I got my shaft back it had dents in it from clamps or something. I, personally, couldn't give it back to a customer like that.

Sure, I'd rather have a lathe but it's not absolutely neccesary. Heck, go down to your local pool hall some lazy Sunday afternoon and ask if you can replace tips on house cues with whoever is doing the repairs. That's great practice and I bet the person would appreciate the help.

I like hejests steps to replacing tips.

(Just my opinion :)
 
Id like to have a dollar for every tip I have installed, its just to much hastle for me these days, Every cue I get is inbetween sizes, I have a guage, and buy assorted tip sizes, but this never works and I always have alot of tip to trim.. It just makes sense to use a lathe, So thats what Im going to do, I went to atlas and have found all the popular joint pin's I would need and Im going to rig a drill, to spin the shafts, (thanks Mr. Varney!)

No Doubt I can do a good Job by hand, the time it takes to insure a quality tip job just isnt worth it to me anymore.. I have also tried that rapid cue top sander... yes! its rapid!.. I wouldnt suggest using it because the sandpaper is to coarse.. after a few tip jobs your going to shorten the Ferrule.. it does work great if there is a small crack and you do need to cut the ferrule down, but then it would be better to just replace the ferrule.. Whitch I have done by hand as well.. it took me two days to get it right. I'll never do that again.. lol


SPINDOKTOR
 
Thanks to everyone for input. Note if the quality of work was always good by the professionals I would not be trying to do it myself.
 
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