Tip life

[GideonF]

Call me crazy. I use a 12 buck good old fashioned Willards.

The $800 was joke (based on the previous joke of $1k). I think I paid like $20 for the Gator and it was well worth it.

 

[maha]

coco could do well selling sheets of sand paper. and be completely justified as it works the same.

 

[Zerksies]

In my experience Kamui = Glazing.

In my opinion people are not taking care of the tip.

 

[Black-Balled]

The Kamui Gator grip tool? Discontinued in 2025:

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The post you cut and replied to clearly presented:
-file type tool
-many options

Why do you feel the need to correct what was not wrong?

 

[Paul_#_]

Why do you feel the need to correct what was not wrong?

My bad. I read your post to mean the file type tool, Kamui Gator Grip, when you actually were referring to all file type tools including Kamui Gator Grip.

 

[GideonF]

Well, just the opposite actually. Sometimes we do things (especially in our 70’s) and don’t put 2 and 2 together immediately. Couple weeks ago I used a diamond shaper that one side is dime, other side nickel. I had not shaped the tip since I bought the cue from Syberts about 8 months ago. So I decided to monkey with it (of course). Did the full on dime shape. In retrospect, that’s when my troubles started. When I miscued on a heavy draw, looked at the tip and it was evident just a very small part of the tip contacted the cue ball. Just for shits, I grabbed on of my house cues from China which has a nickel shape on what is undoubtedly a rock hard Elk Master, or worse. Hit some similar draw shots…….no miscues. So I went to work on my Cuetec and reshaped to the nickel radius. Night and day. I’m sure there a players who can play with that dime shape, I apparently am not one of them.

If your tip is more curved, then you are probably hitting the CB lower than you are used to - so you might hit below the miscue limit with a very curved tip rather than the flatter one you are used to.

 

[Paul_#_]

When I miscued on a heavy draw, looked at the tip and it was evident just a very small part of the tip contacted the cue ball.

If your tip is more curved, then you are probably hitting the CB lower than you are used to - so you might hit below the miscue limit with a very curved tip rather than the flatter one you are used to

So, miscueing would occur higher off the table cloth for the dime-shaped than the nickel-shaped tip (you can get closer to the cloth without miscueing with the nickel-shaped tip than the dime-shaped tip).

Presuming the contact area of the dime-shaped tip to the cue ball can be larger than that from using a nickel-shaped tip, the same amount of draw can be attained with a dime-shaped tip higher off the cloth than if a nickel-shaped tip was used.

 

[Patrick Johnson]

If your tip is more curved, then you are probably hitting the CB lower than you are used to - so you might hit below the miscue limit with a very curved tip rather than the flatter one you are used to.

On the other hand, if your tip is too flat you can't hit at the miscue limit on the CB without miscuing. Best to shape your tip so it has at least 60° of arc (dime or nickel shape), which allows you to hit all the way to the CB's miscue limit (halfway from center to edge = 30° per side) without hitting right on the edge of your tip.

pj
chgo

 

[GideonF]

On the other hand, if your tip is too flat you can't hit at the miscue limit on the CB without miscuing. Best to shape your tip so it has at least 60° of arc (dime or nickel shape), which allows you to hit all the way to the CB's miscue limit (halfway from center to edge = 30° per side) without hitting right on the edge of your tip.

pj
chgo

Yes, I’m not advocating a flat tip. I’m just trying to point to a possible explanation for the apparent miscue with a dime rather than a nickel.

 

[Rodney]

In my opinion people are not taking care of the tip.

I’m just curious, what is the proper way to care for a tip?