Tips? what advantage

renard said:
Why don't tip makers set something up at a booth at say the expo or something. At the booth they could have lets say, 12 one piece Duffrin sticks all of the same weight. Each stick would have the 12 different tips they make. Then you could try out each tip on a demo pool table to make the decision on the tip you like.

To add to this what if all tip makers had the same booths? Man they would sell. Why? Because you are setting everything up like a wine tasting festival. By the time you found a tip you liked, you would be so stoked to by it. Of course the tip sellers would only sell there value packs of a dozen or so. It becomes a win-win situation. More sales for the manufacturer because they expose more of a variety. Customer satisfaction because they finally can compare without limitations.

Pool players never get a chance to compare the soft, medium, of hard of a certain brand. Let alone compare manufactures in the same setting. Of course you could play devils advocate and tell me the reasons why it hasn't happened (or is already being done.) I just know I get new tips that for one minor reason or another I don't like. I would like to find that perfect tip for me sooner than later. (I buy one tip annually on average.)
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Tiger Products does offer the opportunity to try their entire line at the Super Billiards Expo, BCA Nationals, APA Nationals and BCA Trade Show.
 
Now I'm spazzin!....I did'nt know LePro changed the make up of thier tips!...I have 5 left from about 6 years ago in a sealed container. i've used them for about 15 years, and have only tried the Talisman medium, which I liked alot, but I fear change!

I have a new cue coming in this week, maybe it's time to try a new tip? Come to think of it, I don't know what tip it's coming with.........Gerry
 
Tons'O'fun said:
All this talk about blaming a brand of tip for miscueing has me laughing.

One common theme, if you don't chalk before each and every shot and you start going to the outer extremes when applying english you'll get more miscues with any brand of cue-tip. JHMO

It's rarely the tip itself. Most of the time it's poor chalking habits, followed by poor stroke habits, followed by poor tip maintenance. By poor tip maintenance I mean the tip is mushroomed, mishapen or glazed like a honey coated donut.

I, like anyone else miscue on the odd occasion, but there's always a common scenario when it occurs. I'm using lots of english and I haven't chalked in a few shots. Now, can I blame the tip for this?. Nope.

I'm sure this post will be hottly contested, but I stand by my claim.
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Good statements. When it is humid though the chalk does not stay on the tip as well. If you are running balls, sometimes you do not think about it and then oops..
 
I've been shooting with layered tips after switching over from lepro's about 2 years ago. Really liked them, but tried a triangle on one shaft about 2 months ago, and have since added them to all 3 of the shafts I use weekly.

really like the triangle tip, it holds it shape better than a lepro, haven't miscued more than once, and have one on my break cue that hasn't mushroomed. Reminds me of a lepro without the inconsistent tips.

The layered tips played well, and out of all of them I like a tailsman hard the most. But the triangle just seems better to me.
 
CrownCityCorey said:
Tiger Products does offer the opportunity to try their entire line at the Super Billiards Expo, BCA Nationals, APA Nationals and BCA Trade Show.
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At least Tiger has it right. Do other manufacturers do this as well at the expo?
 
cubswin said:
I've been shooting with layered tips after switching over from lepro's about 2 years ago. Really liked them, but tried a triangle on one shaft about 2 months ago, and have since added them to all 3 of the shafts I use weekly.

really like the triangle tip, it holds it shape better than a lepro, haven't miscued more than once, and have one on my break cue that hasn't mushroomed. Reminds me of a lepro without the inconsistent tips.

The layered tips played well, and out of all of them I like a tailsman hard the most. But the triangle just seems better to me.
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Similar situation here. I had been using nothing but Moori Mediums, then acquired a Stacey with a Triangle. I had planned to add a Moori medium to it as well, but I'm hitting so good with it that I'm wondering if it's the tip or the shaft. I'm getting a Triangle on my old shaft as well, just out of curiosity.
 
Im glad this was brought up, Last year I ordered just about every laminated tip on the market, Believe it or not the best all around tip I found was a tiger Products Soft tip, its solid white.. Im not to found of soft tips, this tip didnt feel like a sponge, and the playability was awsome...

Le Pro is one of the best stamped tips out there, Triangle is better.. The problem Im having is Im getting boxes of these tips stamped crooked, and the tips once installed (before shaping) is lop sided, no big deal, but I believe this has a tendancy to change the tips playabilty somewhat... Elk Master use to be an awsome tip, untill about 5 years ago, now those tips are one of the worst..

Lately I have been shooting with a KC cue I bought off of ebay, with a very hard water buffalo tip, to my surprise this cue plays very well... Granted, I had to retaper the shaft and I fixed some minor flaws. Id like to try some of these water buffalo tips on my other cues... the tip is real, hard, but develops generous spin, and with constant breaking, will not mushroom... so yeah, I was using it for a break cue, turned out to be a decent playing cue as well...


2wld4u
 
2wld4u said:
Im glad this was brought up, Last year I ordered just about every laminated tip on the market, Believe it or not the best all around tip I found was a tiger Products Soft tip, its solid white.. Im not to found of soft tips, this tip didnt feel like a sponge, and the playability was awsome...

Le Pro is one of the best stamped tips out there, Triangle is better.. The problem Im having is Im getting boxes of these tips stamped crooked, and the tips once installed (before shaping) is lop sided, no big deal, but I believe this has a tendancy to change the tips playabilty somewhat... Elk Master use to be an awsome tip, untill about 5 years ago, now those tips are one of the worst..

Lately I have been shooting with a KC cue I bought off of ebay, with a very hard water buffalo tip, to my surprise this cue plays very well... Granted, I had to retaper the shaft and I fixed some minor flaws. Id like to try some of these water buffalo tips on my other cues... the tip is real, hard, but develops generous spin, and with constant breaking, will not mushroom... so yeah, I was using it for a break cue, turned out to be a decent playing cue as well...


2wld4u
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At the pool room I have the guy, Ralph, replace my tip. I never gave second thought to tips and how they affect play. Even though I've seen topics over and over again, I just never really got into them. So today I asked Ralph about it. This guy is very critical and normally shrugs things off as useless. In the case of tips he did tell me that it can make a difference in feel. Well considering the many posts here and his comments, I do plan to try a change. Thanks all for your input and I'll let you know my results 'cause I am a sub-conscious aiming system player with feel.
 
shinyballs said:
Definitely consistency of the tip will improve going to a layered tip. I used LePro for about 7 years before switching to a layered tip. I'll never go back. Occassionally you'll get a good LePro tip, but you just never know.

As far as Elk Master, I tried my first one a week or two ago because I was having some trouble miscueing. I'm sorry, but you just can't "feel" the hit with a tip that soft. I cut the thing off after a day.
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Elk Master tips need compressed. Used hard for several hours before they are ready for competitive use. Once I've done that though, it lasts a very long time and has a very solid feel without feeling so hard that your wondering if your really miscuing and don't know it. That is the best thing I like about it. Once it is broke in it is hard without getting harder. If you get a hard tip to begin with then it is too hard before long. (To hard for me that is)
 
I have tried a few different tips. LePro, Elkmaster, Triangle, Everest, and Moori Med and Hard. I just recently stopped playing with a Meucci that I used a few different tips on. LePro, Elkmaster, and Triangle, the lepros were nice when I had no clue what I was doing, I was young and liked to make the cue ball dance for no apparent reason. Lepros got worse so I got talked into an Elkmaster, guy told me it had chalk embeded into it hence the blue color. I tried it, went through it in less then a month. Then I think I tried an Everest. It hit good for a few days until I flattened it out due to playing with the blackdot on the black dot shaft up on every shot. Made no sense. Then the infamous triangle came in. Those were some good tips until I started getting the inconsistent ones. Lasted about 2 months for me. I play a LOT. People ***** at me because I play the equivalent to a 2nd full time job a week. Then I bought my Frank Ball Custom. It has 2 shafts but I only got one of them at first, payment deal because of a lack of funds. I got the shaft that I didnt want, at first. I wanted the one with the laminated tip because I liked the way it played. I got the shaft with the Elkmaster...played with it for one night and had Mr. Searing put a Moori Med. on it. OMG let me tell you what. Thought the other tip was special. The Moori keeps getting better...I mushroomed out bad once because I didnt have him cut it down. Its compressed now and it maybe the tip, the cue, or my stroke or a combination of all 3. But Moori Med IMO is the way to go. Very responsive, can get a lot or a little spin, and a lot with a nice smooth stroke no problem. Miscues are not frequest at all...the only time I have miscued is when I get way away from center or I play stupid and dont chalk my cue. Moori is the way to go...FWIW, MHO.
 
pete lafond said:
At the pool room I have the guy, Ralph, replace my tip. I never gave second thought to tips and how they affect play. Even though I've seen topics over and over again, I just never really got into them. So today I asked Ralph about it. This guy is very critical and normally shrugs things off as useless. In the case of tips he did tell me that it can make a difference in feel. Well considering the many posts here and his comments, I do plan to try a change. Thanks all for your input and I'll let you know my results 'cause I am a sub-conscious aiming system player with feel.
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The best way to get the best out of any tip is to burnish the sides, orange oil cleaner (cant rember the name) and a paper towel will add a good shiny finish... I useualy use a fine point marker to color the tip and then use the cleaner, and paper towel, I put the tip between my fingers, add some pressure and twist it pretty good. this helps alot.. and it looks really good...

Ive tried that burnishing stuff, and this works just as good or better...


2wld4u
 
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