To Jimmy Sickles

bubsbug

bubsbug

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Here goes an honest attempt and good faith resolutions over a past entry, By me, bubs bug , formerly known as Cue-Healer.( Although I wished I had that name back.) Recently there have been some settle remarks, in numerous forms directed at me regarding a past post. I do have a big conscience and subsequently haven’t been sleeping very well lately.

First, and foremost I want to apologies to Jimmy Sickles in front of the public. Jimmy is a local pool playing acquaintance of mine. He has given me some very valuable inside information on cue building. Jimmy is an inspiration to me that got me into cue building. Thank you Jimmy and I’m sorry. I sincerely hope that our relationship can be salvaged. I value your input. Can you forgive me??

Secondly, I would like to apologies to all of unique products supporters. I would also like to apologies to any person that I may have offended regarding that post.

This is what happen. I dropped my small cue companion chuck on the concrete and it cracked. I’m not sure why it cracked. I could probably through it down as hard as I could and it would not crack. It is made of good grounded metal. Anyways I called unique and they were going to charge me $350 to replace it. It was my fault no question. But $350 after paving $ 1500 for the machine. Anyways a week later I found a machine shop in southern Indiana that would build me one for $100. Its currently being made. I felt like I was being robed. There linen press sells for $150. I can and have made four of them at that price. Cam followers are the magic trick. I am currently building a cue companion as an experiment to determine the cost. I have even shopped at the same companies and manufactures that they have. I’m expecting to have $700 in the whole project. If I were to choose one particular metal salvage yard I could buy enough aluminum to make 6 machine for $175 BUCKS. Why so costly.?? I understand that it is a limited market! Its not like I am buying a house or automobile.

Here is my attitude. I have a family income of nearly $150,000.00 annually. I feel that this is a signifant amount for which I am very thankful for. Problem is, is that I can not come up with the money needed to buy fancy equipment. $8500 here, $10,000 there, 3,000 for this and $2500 for that. Supplies aren’t that big of a deal. it’s the machines that is a killer. I had a deal with Chris Hightower that I had to renig on and I feel horrible about it. Especially when is need is greater than mine.(He knows what I am talking about) It seams that just when I get enough saved I have to spend it on something unexpected. Jimmy I have seen you garage, you are very fortunate.

Those that really know me, know what I’m like. I would virtually give someone the clothes off my back to help them out. I would climb the highest mountain, and swim the widest river if I knew it would make a difference in someone’s life. Perhaps that’s why I am a Hospice Nurse. I like helping people. I grew up this way, Its in my blood.

I have a passion like no other to build cues, but simply put I cant afford the machinery. If and when I do build cues it will be for cost only. The satisfaction of having my sticks out there will be plenty of gratitude. In college I got a job building furniture. In a furniture manufacturer plant in southern Indiana. Nice furniture. I operated the ban saw and table saw. I have more tricks on a band saw than Quaker has oats. Anyways I developed a passion for wood working and have gathered all kinds of woodworking tools, but no cue making tools. Easily put this whole industry is frustrating in it monetary value. Come on this is America. So out of my frustration I bad mouth Unique products. I feel for everyone who has a passion and cant afford it. My hopes are for everyone who has a pool cue can get a shaft machine if for nothing else to repair their own personal cue. I’m certainly no writing scalar but I did my best at explaining. Once again I’m sorry to All.
 
I know, you addressed this to Jim, but you end it with, "Once again I’m sorry to All", so I feel it is open.
bubsbug said:
Here goes an honest attempt and good faith resolutions over a past entry, By me, bubs bug , formerly known as Cue-Healer.( Although I wished I had that name back.) Recently there have been some settle remarks, in numerous forms directed at me regarding a past post. I do have a big conscience and subsequently haven’t been sleeping very well lately.

First, and foremost I want to apologies to Jimmy Sickles in front of the public. Jimmy is a local pool playing acquaintance of mine. He has given me some very valuable inside information on cue building. Jimmy is an inspiration to me that got me into cue building. Thank you Jimmy and I’m sorry. I sincerely hope that our relationship can be salvaged. I value your input. Can you forgive me??


Secondly, I would like to apologies to all of unique products supporters. I would also like to apologies to any person that I may have offended regarding that post.
You should have stopped at this point.
This is what happen. I dropped my small cue companion chuck on the concrete and it cracked. I’m not sure why it cracked. I could probably through it down as hard as I could and it would not crack. It is made of good grounded metal. Anyways I called unique and they were going to charge me $350 to replace it. It was my fault no question. But $350 after paving $ 1500 for the machine. Anyways a week later I found a machine shop in southern Indiana that would build me one for $100. Its currently being made. I felt like I was being robed. There linen press sells for $150. I can and have made four of them at that price. Cam followers are the magic trick. I am currently building a cue companion as an experiment to determine the cost. I have even shopped at the same companies and manufactures that they have. I’m expecting to have $700 in the whole project. If I were to choose one particular metal salvage yard I could buy enough aluminum to make 6 machine for $175 BUCKS. Why so costly.?? I understand that it is a limited market! Its not like I am buying a house or automobile.
Try to understand this, they are in business. In business, you have to make money. I would never expect them to sell at cost. If you dropped the chuck, you need to own the responsibility for it being broken. It is inconceivable to expect a replacement.

Here is my attitude. I have a family income of nearly $150,000.00 annually. I feel that this is a signifant amount for which I am very thankful for. Problem is, is that I can not come up with the money needed to buy fancy equipment. $8500 here, $10,000 there, 3,000 for this and $2500 for that. Supplies aren’t that big of a deal. it’s the machines that is a killer. I had a deal with Chris Hightower that I had to renig on and I feel horrible about it. Especially when is need is greater than mine.(He knows what I am talking about) It seams that just when I get enough saved I have to spend it on something unexpected. Jimmy I have seen you garage, you are very fortunate.
$150,000? Have you considered getting food stamps? LOL I would love to have more money and machinery, but I am not going to begrudge someone a living. Whatever it is you do for $150,000 per year, would you do it for free?

Those that really know me, know what I’m like. I would virtually give someone the clothes off my back to help them out. I would climb the highest mountain, and swim the widest river if I knew it would make a difference in someone’s life. Perhaps that’s why I am a Hospice Nurse. I like helping people. I grew up this way, Its in my blood.
Maybe, but all we have to go by, is what we see here.

I have a passion like no other to build cues, but simply put I cant afford the machinery.
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I ain't buying it. $150,000? It's called, priorities. I would like to make cues, have for a long time. I could have afforded, at least a meager lathe by now, but right now my wife and kids come first. I will not bad mouth someone because of prioity choices that I have made.

Tracy
 
Tap Tap Tap to Tracy.

I 100% agree with the "You should have stopped at this point." As soon as I read beyond that point I was saying the same thing before I read Tracy's response.

Your annual income is $150,000 and you are barking over a $1500 machine?

WTF???

$1500 is 1% of your annual income dude. What percentage do you think you pay towards cars? Do you drive old beat up cars or relatively nice ones? Does your entire family share one car? Do you ***** at the car dealer every time you have to pay $30,000 for a car despite the fact that the raw materials are not anywhere near that?

You say "I have a passion like no other to build cues, but simply put I cant afford the machinery."

I don't believe you dude, not with your attitude over a machine that is 1% of your income. A lot of cuemakers don't make that kind of money...I believe THEM when they say they do it for the passion.

You would have gained a lot of respect from me if you had just stopped at the public apology, and I was one of the ones to call you out on what you said. Like Tracy said, it would be nice to have more money and machinery. Each individual makes out with what he has and sets priorities. Given my income (nowhere near what you quote) and what I have spent, you have 0% sympathy from me dude...

First cue you sell, I expect you to sell about 20 dollars over cost with your attitude....otherwise you will be robbing people, right?

Kelly
 
Bubs,
I don't know you, where you live, or the past situations / threads that prompted this, but I guess I'll say kudos for offering the apology. Now the reason for my chime in.. throwing out your annual family income is probably not the best thing to do. Again, I don't know where you live... there are some areas in the country where a decent 2000 sq. ft. home will run you over $500,000. Add that to the basic costs of supporting a family and that 150k doesn't get you very far at all. There are other areas (like mine) where that is a considerable salary and unless you enjoy grossly overspending that should leave a lot of disposable income.
So... in the future you may just want to leave the $$$ out of it.. and to the guys dogging on him for having that much income and not wanting to spend 1500 on a machine, remember that in this country there are vastly different costs of living on east and west coast vs. central us... don't be too quick to judge.
 
cjarmst said:
Bubs,
I don't know you, where you live, or the past situations / threads that prompted this, but I guess I'll say kudos for offering the apology. Now the reason for my chime in.. throwing out your annual family income is probably not the best thing to do. Again, I don't know where you live... there are some areas in the country where a decent 2000 sq. ft. home will run you over $500,000. Add that to the basic costs of supporting a family and that 150k doesn't get you very far at all. There are other areas (like mine) where that is a considerable salary and unless you enjoy grossly overspending that should leave a lot of disposable income.
So... in the future you may just want to leave the $$$ out of it.. and to the guys dogging on him for having that much income and not wanting to spend 1500 on a machine, remember that in this country there are vastly different costs of living on east and west coast vs. central us... don't be too quick to judge.
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Yes, you are certainly correct about different costs of living. I have had to move because of a job and lost money/ended up with a smaller house because of that. That doesn't mean squat regarding his post.

His post is addressing the cost and his perceived value of a $1500 cue lathe. Jim sells that machine for the same price regardless of where people live, and the point of the post is for us to understand his side of things because he supposedly can build it from raw materials cheaper than $1500. He is saying because he only makes $150,000 a year, we are supposed to understand his frustration over some perceived high cost of the machine, and we are supposed to have sympathy because he has this great passion for cuebuilding, but he can't afford machinery. That is BS, I don't care where he lives.
Kelly
 
hey, if he can build it; let him go ahead and build it; spare AZ anymore drama; show us a photo of the finished product and I'm sure some will applaud him; some will ridicule him; & some will want to buy it for less than he has in it,,,,,,,,,,,,life goes on & on & on & on & on......... J :rolleyes:
 
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As I said before I am an RN. My wife is a hospital Administrator. You do the math. Last year I spent $21,000 in child care expensive for 3 kids because we moved to a city where I dont have realtives to relie on. This does not include sports and extracricular activities that I am heavely involved In. Family is my first priorty and will aways be!!!I drive a 02 Surburban. Yes you are correct about priorties, no doubt. But I also have a better half who also has wants and needs. I will also agree that we probaply overspend. Does this mean that I cant still have an opinion about the cue making billiard industry. This, pool huslers, and idiots are why the billiards industry don't have the reputation that, golf, tennis, or big sports have.

There is an old saying, provide bad service (or perceived unfairness) and they will tell 10 people. provide good service and they will tell one person. What ever hapen to customer service in america. What ever hapen to the customer is always right. I have a good friend who owns a billiard shop. He sells his tables at a minimal charge because he knows that these people will be back, especially for service which in turn makes him more money.
Why should cue industry be and different.

As I said before I will sell my sticks at cost maximumn. Not $10 or $20 over. Infact im sure the majority will be given away. I also make pens. Nice pen. I gave jimmy one and didnt charge anything. Kit cost $6.00, 1/2 hr to make. I started charge $10 a pen but All I do now is give them away. I gave out 40 for christmas, and probably well over 200 total.
I make a good living, cue making is just a hobby for me. Infact about 8 months ago I purchased a new lathe from jimmy. Currently I service 10 bars in my area for tip repair and do you know what I charge. With the exception of Ymca which I charge $1.00 a stick, the rest feed me dinner at there bar when I do a bundle for them. You see I do this because I truly enjoy it. I love feeling the wood, smelling the glue, getting dust power all over. its almost better that an orgasim. Sad thing about it is most folks have no idea what I am talking about because they are out for monitary gain. One thing for sure. If I ever hit the lottery the cue making industry would hate me and customers would love me. See I simply dont believe in charging a lot for things. To me when I see someones face light up over something, this has more meaning then money will every have. A few years a go I built and installed Fences, Deck, and water ponds at less than 50% of that of a professional. often times mine looked better. Simply put Cue machinery shouldnt cost what they do.
 
To RSB Refugee, You asked if I would do my job for free!!! Know and be asured this. I dnont know you from adam, but If I saw you laying down in your own blood, needing emergent resesation,--------I would even need to think about it. I would help in a heartbeat!!!!!

Im not saying that Cue machinery companies shouldnt make a profit. The questions is how much profit shoult they make?
 
Isn't a free market? You don't have to buy from them. If you can make it cheaper and better then make it, otherwise buy elsewhere. Your apology started out fine, but it went down hill again.
 
bubsbug said:
Im not saying that Cue machinery companies shouldnt make a profit. The questions is how much profit shoult they make?
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I would say the answer is enough to make a living. One guy called up and screamed at me for over a hour once because I asked some questions about his machine on this forum. He made a comment about me nearly doubling my money on spare parts for the machines when he could buy some of them else where cheaper.
What I told him was that I was the one spending many thousands of dollars per year in advertising to promote cue machinery in magazines, websites and tradeshows. So I have a pretty large nut to crack just to break even every month. He understood and seemed to calm down.
In this business the market is pretty small and you have to make a profit on just about everything you do or you will lose money. If I only did $100,000 in business this coming year I would lose money. That seems unlikely to anyone who has not owned a business, but those are hard cold facts.
Let me throw out an example. Let's say your goal is to make $100,000 net income in 2007 before Federal and state income taxes. Let's say your parts going into the machines are $200,000. Now you spend $35,000 for a couple of part time helpers. Your shipping expenses are $20,000, advertising $10,000, packing materials $2000, rent $12,000, Sales tax $10,000, Paypal and credit card fees $6000, Auto expense $2000, office and other misc expense $3000. That comes out to $300,000 in expenses.
This means even if you double your money on every part that you sell you will have to do $400,000 in business to make your $100,000 before taxes.
I looked back at one of my profit and loss statements and my parts expense was well over 50% of my income. I will admit their are some items that I make 90% profit on, like custom cues I build from scratch, but I have a ton of labor in it. But other items like Moori tips and Ivory I make very small percentage profit, but have very little labor in. So don't assume Unique gets their $300 retail chuck made for $100 or less just because you are getting it made for that. They may be paying $150 or $200. They may get better quality than you will wind up with and pay more for that quality.
Not trying to get in an argument here. I have just been on both sides of the fence and can see how expensive a business is to run and know a little about the kind of margins it takes to make a living.

God bless and Happy Cue Building!
Chris
www.cuesmith.com
www.internationalcuemakers.com
 
I have about $35000 invested in my shop. When I started, I was a computer programmer and my wife was (and still is) a full time nurse. Some who know me back that far (ScottR, RascalDoc, CAM) can verify this for you. She was 8 months pregnant, out in the shop WITH ME, on my $39 drill press and $300 7x10 lathe, making joint protectors for the grocery money, and trying to save the money to buy a bigger lathe. By the way, we have still NEVER cleared $100k, even counting my wife's income, 8 years of cue making, computer consulting and all. I don't know where most got their start but mine wasn't handed to me, and I didn't find (nor expect) some manufacturer to cut me half off cuz I didn't happen to have $20k in the bank.

Actually, as a matter of fact, on that very subject...I conjured up every dime I could find AND borrow and it was BRYAN SWANK AND JIM SICKLES who DID cut me a deal on a cue monster because they knew I really wanted the thing and that I was spending every dime I had. They didn't owe me a damn thing. They helped me anyway. Let me state again... I went BUSTED buying it, but I made the decision to buy, and I bought. That simple.

Now... I don't know you, and am not trying to be rude, but you are saying you have over $150k income, and you have a problem with Unique making a buck or two for THEIR work? Yes, they WORK for their money. Hell, even if 100 cue companions were dropped at their front door from Santa, with NO COST AT ALL, I still wouldn't expect them to just give them away! They gotta eat. You can't tell me you would just love to do hospice work for $5 an hour... can you?

Lastly... I want to save you some time. I can tell you right now, and I will bet that MANY cuemakers will back me up on this... if you think you want into cue making for the money, then go get every single dime you can possibly invest in cue making and STICK IT IN A SLOT MACHINE. YOU HAVE BETTER CHANCES THAT WAY.

JWP
 
cueman said:
Let me throw out an example. Let's say your goal is to make $100,000 net income in 2007 before Federal and state income taxes. Let's say your parts going into the machines are $200,000. Now you spend $35,000 for a couple of part time helpers. Your shipping expenses are $20,000, advertising $10,000, packing materials $2000, rent $12,000, Sales tax $10,000, Paypal and credit card fees $6000, Auto expense $2000, office and other misc expense $3000. That comes out to $300,000 in expenses.

Chris
www.cuesmith.com
www.internationalcuemakers.com
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How the heck did you get a copy of my Schedule C ???? !!
 
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Chris, I agree with you but why does your pricing seem to be inline with fairness and uniques be in outer space.

What really gets me is that sickles thanks that Im a backstaber for my post. I didnt thik he would take it personaly. Well he Sickles purchased a Porper model A from me. Isn he backstabbing his own company. Thats like Dale Jr #8 whearing a lowes teashirt while driving, And he has the nerve to call me a backstaber. He purchased this machine to core. Cant a unique machine core? A cue delux can.

I purchased a cue companion and a cue maker lathe. when I got the lathe home it didnt work properly. He quickly got me a new motor and controller. The tool handles have broken because they are cheap. In fact I know only 4 people with this lathe. funny thing is all have broken tool handles.
The centripical rotation causes the chuck to sometimes overtighten creating problems. Hence the broken handles. better the handles then a nice stick I guess. the extra steady rest for a bar cue needs completely redesigned. They have a screw with a plastic spin nut to hold it down. The plastic spin nut has broken. I now just use pliers.

The cue makers motor dosnt work either. I told jimmy about it and he didnt make a curticy call to the actual owner (My Dad) I think that this motor is severly underpowered. Under load while making a threded tennon foe example it will stop completely. Other then that the cue maker is a very nice mackine. Much improved over the cue companion. but it still cant cut metal joints like the cue delux can. All im saying is that for $4500 I expect a little more. As far as the chuck goes, I guess I was looking for something more reasonable. But yes It is my falt.
 
bada bing

If you are unhappy about the product...Call Unique and quit calling them out on the post...If you do not like the pricing, DO NOT BUY from them...If you are jealous of cuemakers get a life
 
bubsbug said:
Chris, I agree with you but why does your pricing seem to be inline with fairness and uniques be in outer space.

What really gets me is that sickles thanks that Im a backstaber for my post. I didnt thik he would take it personaly. Well he Sickles purchased a Porper model A from me. Isn he backstabbing his own company. Thats like Dale Jr #8 whearing a lowes teashirt while driving, And he has the nerve to call me a backstaber. He purchased this machine to core. Cant a unique machine core? A cue delux can.

I purchased a cue companion and a cue maker lathe. when I got the lathe home it didnt work properly. He quickly got me a new motor and controller. The tool handles have broken because they are cheap. In fact I know only 4 people with this lathe. funny thing is all have broken tool handles.
The centripical rotation causes the chuck to sometimes overtighten creating problems. Hence the broken handles. better the handles then a nice stick I guess. the extra steady rest for a bar cue needs completely redesigned. They have a screw with a plastic spin nut to hold it down. The plastic spin nut has broken. I now just use pliers.

The cue makers motor dosnt work either. I told jimmy about it and he didnt make a curticy call to the actual owner (My Dad) I think that this motor is severly underpowered. Under load while making a threded tennon foe example it will stop completely. Other then that the cue maker is a very nice mackine. Much improved over the cue companion. but it still cant cut metal joints like the cue delux can. All im saying is that for $4500 I expect a little more. As far as the chuck goes, I guess I was looking for something more reasonable. But yes It is my falt.
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THIS IS THE SAME BULLSH*T ALL OVER AGAIN. SHUT YOUR PIE HOLE AND GO TO SLEEP. YOU ARE NOT ONE BIT SORRY, AND THERE IS NOT AN OUNCE OF SINCERITY IN YOUR APOLOGY.

MR WILSON !!! ??? MIKE ?? SOMEONE ??? GEES.... I COULD THROW MY KEYBOARD ACROSS THE STREET ON THIS !!!
 
I have never used their lathes, so I won't comment on that, but I aggree with Tracy, You should have stopped after the appology because going into the income and all really did'nt help make Your case. I understand as well as anyone that sometimes We say things that don't come out the way we intend them, so You had me on the hook there, but man 150 thou a year is not going to get much sympathy from Me or many others. Others will tell You I'm sure, that you don't even want to get My poor mouthing started;) :p , and a few people may wish they had what little I have, altough I still feel very limited with what I have to work with. I constantly have to pass up good deals because quite frankly I can't always afford to take advantage when the oppertunities arise, and that holds me back quite a bit. If I was'nt doing It for the passion, I would'nt be into It at all, but still I could'nt just give My work away to everyone or My equipment would never grow, and My material list would decrease, therefore My designs, and the quality of My work may not reach the levels I would like them to eventually. I have went this road at times while learning things the hard way, and still trying to dig My way out now, but the knowledge that was gained in the process I feel is worth the price.
If your cost of living is really so high as to not help make up the difference in Your persuit of this hobby, then My advice for what It's worth- is to atleast recoop Your costs on a cue, and some profit would'nt hurt to help you gear up more, to produce the quality I'm sure You probably desire. You can do both, and still get the look on peoples faces that You enjoy. I can understand You having a family to worry about, many of us do, so this would be the best way to stay out of the family income anyway.

I know you probably don't realize this, but these type statements are hurting quite a few people here in ways that may not be obvious. I've always been like an open book in what I was doing & different things I was trying during a long learning proccess. I'm one of those people that has to try things for Myself, altough I like to get as much info as I can outside of hands on also. Thankfully others were open about alot things that interested me, but some were'nt quite as open for their own reasons which I tried to respect. This used to be a place where many shared ideas with others no matter if they were of popular opinion or not. Everyone learns from each other. I was lucky enough to be here, when some very good information was shared By quite a few good makers, some were up and coming, but shared really good info, and It helped Me greatly. Now some people give back and share their experiences and others don't, that in It'self makes it a one way street, and I could see where some may not wish to participate anymore that normally would on that alone. There's a boom of people building cues out there that just lurked and never shared anything in return no matter how ridiculous of an idea it was. I did'nt let that bother me as much, and would try to help If one of those people asked, but The more I see people called out for things that should have been handled privately, the less I even care to participate on the open forum. It may just me, but I'm pretty sure I'm not the only one. I have things I've learned on My own that I would be willing to share, but because others for which I have respect for may be doing the same things for all I know, and wish not to share now, I don't feel right in posting It. I guess what I'm saying to put it simply Is I'm trying not to bite the hand that helps feed My quest for continous knowledge.Now I think back and sometimes think I may have done this not realizing It at the time, so I can be very understanding of It, but lately I have been sitting back and taking a hard look at things, and there are certain things that even I would rather not share, and I'm not known for holding much back.

This Is all just My opinion, based on what I've seen or experienced, and I mean no disrespect, but I think this matter could be handled privately, and If that did'nt work, there are other measures that could be taken outside of this forum to resolve them.

I'm happy to see new faces here, And would like to welcome them, I just wish We could put all the BS behind, and move on.:) If You want to hear some hard luck stories I got a million of them for You, just ask anyone that knows me;) :D

Peace,

Greg C
 
Mr. Burton

Why are you still posting on here? Or maybe a better question would be why are you still allowed to post here? Mr Wilson? Every one of your posts has some kind of slander laced into it against Unique Products. And for what? Did you identify yourself on the phone when you called about dropping your chuck? I doubt it! I'm not even going to get into any specifics because it's not worth it but I talked to Jim about it in detail and know what happened. Pathetic!

Your income and education, of which I doubt there is any based on the content of your posts, spelling and grammer, have no bearing on the argument that you're trying to make. Like I said before, people like you should thank Chris Hightower, Joe Porper and Unique Products for they're turn key machinery. Without them you would not be involved in this business in any way. Go back 30 years and try to make an old metal lathe do the things that these machines do out of the box! You want everything handed to you, free machinery and free advice! Knowing Chris and Jim you got all the free advice you could handle so one out of two ain't bad. Now take your ridiculous apology and crawl back under your rock.
 
Fullsplice said:
Why are you still posting on here? Or maybe a better question would be why are you still allowed to post here? Mr Wilson? Every one of your posts has some kind of slander laced into it against Unique Products. And for what? Did you identify yourself on the phone when you called about dropping your chuck? I doubt it! I'm not even going to get into any specifics because it's not worth it but I talked to Jim about it in detail and know what happened. Pathetic!

Your income and education, of which I doubt there is any based on the content of your posts, spelling and grammer, have no bearing on the argument that you're trying to make. Like I said before, people like you should thank Chris Hightower, Joe Porper and Unique Products for they're turn key machinery. Without them you would not be involved in this business in any way. Go back 30 years and try to make an old metal lathe do the things that these machines do out of the box! You want everything handed to you, free machinery and free advice! Knowing Chris and Jim you got all the free advice you could handle so one out of two ain't bad. Now take your ridiculous apology and crawl back under your rock.
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TAP TAP TAP....

I think it's fair that you are all made aware .... Jim has PM'd this dude trying to resolve the issue, all the while not ever posting, not even ONE SINGLE TIME, in ANY of the threads from this guy, as an effort to avoid fueling the fire. Bubs STILL chooses to open PUBLIC threads and keep at it.

I COMMEND YOU JIM. I wouldn't dare be able to keep my cool on this one if I were you.

JWP
 
Bubsbug, given what happened to cue_healer I suspect you know you are on thin ice.

You've tried to say "sorry" but feel the need to follow up with more criticism.

Adding Insult to Injury is what that is called.

I strongly advise you to say your final piece / peace ( your choice ) and never bring this up again. Ever.

Just advice, YMMV.
 
Same Story Here

I also am a computer programmer by day and my wife works at a bank and we have two kids in diapers. We live in Nebraska and the cost of living is pretty low but we don't make any where near $150K.

Yes, cue building machinery is expensive. I scratched, pawned, saved, and sold everything my family could afford to get my cue lathe. My wife questioned me every step of the way. I bought a deluxe from Chris Hightower and have no regrets. It does evertything he claims it will. I have made some nice cues. Can I quit my day job, heck no, but I have fun and pick up a few dollars here and there. The money I do make that isn't spent on family stuff I reinvest in tooling and wood. On repairs I make pretty decent cash, on my cues, I pretty much give them away in the hopes that someday I will be a household name.

I should also give thanks to the folks on this forum and Greg;) for sharing knowledge and trade secrets so I'm even capeable of turning my lathe on.

I'm sure you can scrape by if I have.
 
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