To Review or Not to Review -- THAT is the Question

Yukon Ed said:
If Lou's post seems like "rambling nonsense," I probably can't help. I don't know a thing about CTE; however, based on Lou's review, I remain uninterested. Any aiming system that was suddenly developed (especially one that requires continual clarification), after this many years of our sports existence, is automatically suspect with me.

Yukon Ed
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Thanks, Ed.

Lou Figueroa
 
stan shuffett said:
Choosing to succeed at something is basically a choice. Lou did not choose to succeed with CTE/PRO ONE. It is quite evident in Lou’s review that he did not take the content of my DVD to the table and put in the time.

Basic Manual CTE amounts to some homework and then it’s quickly on to PRO ONE. In PRO ONE, it’s just “see the visuals and shoot”. All of this seems a little complicated at first but it’s really quite simple given a little time. Lou chose to miss these major concepts.

My son, Landon, uses CTE/PRO ONE and I am very proud of that fact. (Landon won our monthly open tournament yesterday.) Landon knows what to objectively see for every shot. He simply bends and shoots for a right PRO ONE pivot or slightly rotates left for the left PRO ONE pivot. A huge KEY for Landon in PRO ONE is that he is always 1/2 tip visually offset for each and every shot he shoots where pocketing is concerned. (In PRO ONE there is no manual pivoting.) Last June I made a choice to share this information with everyone. In other words, My DVD presents to you what Landon objectively sees for all of his shots and how he moves into center cue ball with his PRO ONE movements. There has never been anything like this before! I have done my best to share this very important information.

There is not one thing on my DVD that cannot be learned or understood if one is properly motivated. It is a matter of choice by each individual.

I chose to be successful with CTE aiming a few years ago and it has evolved into something very special, CTE/PRO ONE. This happened because of the choices I made. My DVD was by choice because I wanted to share this great information with everyone. I knew there would be detractors. It’s contrast that makes the world tick. Lou simply chose to “not get it”.

I am very proud of my CTE/PRO ONE DVD. Thanks to those of you that have ordered a DVD and to all that have lended positive support for me over the past few years.


Stan Shuffett
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"Choose not to succeed." That is total horseshit.

Here, let me take a shot at your kind of thinking:

Stan choose to make DVD that was incomprehensible and purposely doom the student to failure on several levels.

Hope you're proud of that too.

Lou Figueroa
 
Cornerman said:
I'll throw my 2 cents into the muck.

For the most part, I liked Lou's review. I'm sure if there were no wisecrack shots thrown in here and there, the review might have been more palatable to the CTE advocates. But, there are no rules in a knife fight.

I bought the DVD and watched it. As an advocate of these style of aiming systems, I was somewhat disappointed at what I thought were missing key steps early in the part of the process that would have given non-believers more clarity and something more finite to aim at. Instead, I got the feeling that Stan and company were saying, "choose your two reference points, go right to left or left to right, and one of them will work."

That being said, as a long-time pivot aimer, I brought the information to the table, tried it, and as is normal for these systems, balls went into the hole. But, I was guessing at the initial "aimpoint" based on what I was reading between the lines of the information given. Note to believers: non-believers shouldn't have to rely on reading between the lines.

To the believers again, it seems clear to me that whether to choose one set of reference points vs the other is akin to the Hal Houle two angle theory. If you already believe in and are comfortable with the two angle theory, then the two reference sets makes all kinds of sense. But, if you don't subscribe to the two angle theory, I can't see how this DVD is going to make headway.

Finally, I did show someone what I thought the DVD was saying, and as again as usual with these discussions, even if he didn't think that particular aim was going to make the ball, the object ball would be pocketed enough times to convince him there was something in the CTE method. All anectdotal, so take it for what it's worth (which ain't much in these discussion that do nothing but add cyber pages).

Fred
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Thanks, Fred.

Lou Figueroa
 
lfigueroa said:
"Choose not to succeed." That is total horseshit.

Here, let me take a shot at your kind of thinking:

Stan choose to make DVD that was incomprehensible and purposely doom the student to failure on several levels.

Hope you're proud of that too.

Lou Figueroa
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This guys is all class! :thumbup: he trashes the guys work and now his character. What a classless low life you are, Hulk. This dvd has no effect on your life at all but yet you chose to attack another mans hard work!
 
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Patrick Johnson said:
I couldn't let you burn in AzB alone. :)

I'll offer my $.03 on the dvd after I've seen it.

What I see here so far is business as usual: "naysayers" offering substantive comments and questions that the CTE choir can only respond to with personal attacks and "you just don't get it" (is that really the best argument for the dvd that was supposed to answer all the questions?).

pj
chgo
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lol, what are YOU doing here?!

psst, hey, PJ... just a word of advice this time around: don't be like this guy, because they let you pull the trigger around here.

Welcome back.

Lou Figueroa
 

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champ2107 said:
Seriously can someone show me and quote or high-lite in bold any decent points made in this review? because it reads like a bunch of rambling nonsense to me :confused:
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I suspect that you are suffering from selective reading syndrome, this is very common on INTERNET Forums and it is generally the result of not being in agreement with someones comments.

Long term this can become a serious form of Psychosis which can rule your life. If I were you I would go to the nearest Catholic Church and confess your sin's before it is to late, just don't kneel while you are there and except the body of Christ into your mouth, you may get more than you bargained for!!:) However, that may help you read more carefully and less selectively before you open mouth again here in the temple of AZ!!!!!:p

JIMO
 
manwon said:
I suspect that you are suffering from selective reading syndrome, this is very common on INTERNET Forums and it is generally the result of not being in agreement with someones comments.

Long term this can become a serious form of Psychosis which can rule your life. If I were you I would go to the nearest Catholic Church and confess your sin's before it is to late, just don't kneel while you are there and except the body of Christ into your mouth, you may get more than you bargained for!!:) However, that may help you read more carefully and less selectively before you open mouth again here in the temple of AZ!!!!!:p

JIMO
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ahhhhhh ok? good post! :thumbup::thumbup: <<< u get 2 for that post
 
Spidey,
You forgot my Tin-Foil Alien Communicator Hat. Please append and I will pass it by my legal council.

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Patrick,
Welcome back. Good to see you jumped back in. Rumors of my demise were in fact, greatly exaggerated...Mark Twain.



SpiderWebComm said:
He's back....

HA--- PJ commenting on the DVD.... here --- let me do it for you...

"This DVD sucks because of _____ and _____. He fails to provide a scientific explanation for_____ and ____. Dr. Dave and Lou are right about ____ and ____. IMO people should save their $$ and HAMB and DAM it up. Guys like Spidey only throw personal attacks because because guys like me can't learn anything new and are PERSONALLY VESTED to be against anything regarding this topic. I'm somehow back from the dead but it won't be long before I'm dead again, trust me on that."
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lfigueroa said:
"Choose not to succeed." That is total horseshit.

Here, let me take a shot at your kind of thinking:

Stan choose to make DVD that was incomprehensible and purposely doom the student to failure on several levels.

Hope you're proud of that too.

Lou Figueroa
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Lou, that's a little harsh mate. Why does it always turn to this? I understand that Stan didn't really explain why the system works and that's what most of you wanted, but all the info is there on how to make the system work.
 
Nick B said:
Spidey,
You forgot my Tin-Foil Alien Communicator Hat. Please append and I will pass it by my legal council.

tin-foil-hat.jpg


Patrick,
Welcome back. Good to see you jumped back in. Rumors of my demise were in fact, greatly exaggerated...Mark Twain.
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I hope that's not you in the photo.
 
JAW725 said:
Lou, that's a little harsh mate. Why does it always turn to this? I understand that Stan didn't really explain why the system works and that's what most of you wanted, but all the info is there on how to make the system work.
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Yes, it was harsh. But it was harsh for Stan to tell me I choose not to succeed. Having been an instructor myself (not pool) I think it is wrong to project the failings of your methods and instructional materials onto the student. And, I also think it was wrong for Stan to deny Luxury a refund on the DVD when it was asked for. The DVD does not stand alone as advertised -- as evidenced by all the uncertainty, questions, and dissatisfaction voiced in this and other threads. The DVD does not live up to the hype and Stan is making a big mistake by not standing behind what he sells. He should be offering refunds to anyone who asks, no questions asked. The fact that he does not, tells you it's all about the money.

Lou Figueroa
 
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lfigueroa said:
"Choose not to succeed." That is total horseshit.

Here, let me take a shot at your kind of thinking:

Stan choose to make DVD that was incomprehensible and purposely doom the student to failure on several levels.

Hope you're proud of that too.

Lou Figueroa
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Lou you don't need to go there. M
 
Nick B said:
Spidey,
You forgot my Tin-Foil Alien Communicator Hat. Please append and I will pass it by my legal council.

tin-foil-hat.jpg


Patrick,
Welcome back. Good to see you jumped back in. Rumors of my demise were in fact, greatly exaggerated...Mark Twain.
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I always wondered what the CTE Tin Foil Cap looked like. Nice.

BUT do you also have the Hal Houle CTE Decoder Ring?

Lou Figueroa
bet he doesn't
 
Nick B said:
Spidey,
You forgot my Tin-Foil Alien Communicator Hat. Please append and I will pass it by my legal council.

tin-foil-hat.jpg


Patrick,
Welcome back. Good to see you jumped back in. Rumors of my demise were in fact, greatly exaggerated...Mark Twain.
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Is he trying to pick his nose with that poor cat's hat?

pj
chgo
 
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