To shoot like a pro, look like a pro

Most pros are going to look different than you or I. Different body types. I shouldn't model my play after a person who is super tall or short. Super skinny or super fat. A person who has a great back when mine is absolute trash.

You can pick up things from watching pros for sure but it's not the be all end all. I like to see them for their shot selection but mimicking them seems like an exercise in frustration. Try to get your fundamentals as good as you can and learn to stroke the ball. Stroke is what separates average players from better players. It just so happens to be easier to stroke a ball good with good fundamentals.

The difference between the top couple female players in our area is that the top few can stroke a ball and use spin. The rest love the game and are very accurate but they don't have a stroke.
 
These threads of yours, are getting more crazy, the more I read.
Why would, you want everybody to play the same, no two players are the same, sure you can incorporate some aspects of another players game, into yours. Unless you have there mind, experience. You ain't going to play the same.

No matter, what size you are or hight you are, at the end of the day, it comes down to having a sound technique. Having a great technique will overcome, any drawbacks you might have. Look at Melling for example. Not in your parameters,of size or height.
He is always been able to play, to a very high level.
 
thenaturalpoolplayer said:
You guys need to see my other post where I explain optimum body type for optimum pool.
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Cue Alchemist said:
These threads of yours, are getting more crazy, the more I read.
Why would, you want everybody to play the same, no two players are the same, sure you can incorporate some aspects of another players game, into yours. Unless you have there mind, experience. You ain't going to play the same.

No matter, what size you are or hight you are, at the end of the day, it comes down to having a sound technique. Having a great technique will overcome, any drawbacks you might have. Look at Melling for example. Not in your parameters,of size or height.
He is always been able to play, to a very high level.
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But not the top level...I mean come on he had one amazing 8 ball game or nobody would be talking about him...also not exactly a stellar snooker career either.
 
SEB said:
I literally cannot believe you guys actually believe this. This is the blind leading the blind here…

No…there is no perfect style. Or height. Or weight. Or arm length.

Efren does a bunch of mechanics wrong. Earl cocks his wrist inward heavily on delivery. Filler has a punchy stroke that wobbles on contact (showing that even he isn’t delivering the cue perfectly straight), Alex P is 5 foot 2, Kaci is 6 foot 4. Max Eberly jabs at most balls, Stan Tarango jumps up on every shot, Mike Dechaine steers any shot with english.

Everyone has a different way of doing things and guess what? They all work.
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I was waiting for someone with some sense to chime in. Well said.
 
thenaturalpoolplayer said:
It really is that simple. I have been studying Gorst, Shaw, and Filler. To me they represent the best of pool. Gorst for deliberate technique, Filler for sniper, and Shaw for natural. The secret to playing like these players is to actually look like these players when you are shooting. If you don't have the exact technique they have then you will never be able to shoot like them. We all know club players who have been batting the balls around the pool hall for decades and have not improved an inch. If you approach pool right you will reach novice to pro level in 3 years tops. If its been longer than 3 years then you simply have stopped improving.

My suggestion is forget everything you know. Watch these players and view yourself shooting ie in the window reflection or video and just try to mimick what they are doing. If you forced Gorst, Shaw, and Filler to shoot the exact way you do, then they would be as bad as you...so the opposite is true.
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novice to pro in three years. that's rich. you really go out of your way to make yourself look lame. that takes dedication. you've gone from straight up rookie to super troll in a little over a month. might be a record. props brother.
 
I hate to admit it but the OP does make some valid points. As far as his height, weight, and age specifications I think he his pulling stuff out of thin air. I believe that a player that is in better physical condition than his opponent has a slight edge. I believe that a younger player i.e. 25 to 35 is going to have an edge over players 36 to 55 due to natural aging process. Being a certain height might have a slight edge to reach certain shots, etc. etc. Those slight edges add up. The differences between the top players is razor thin. That's with everything else being equal such as desire, training habits, etc., etc.
 
I have been playing pool off and on for 30 years. But I did it. I watched Fedor videos for a few hours. I went to the pool room, imitated his technique and almost immediately I achieved the "Golden Glow" like Leroy in the movie "The Last Dragon". I am now a pro. I have achieved enlightenment.
 
I don't understand why there are so often references to 'you can't hit exact center' of the cb?

Perhaps not, if evaluated to a miniscule measure, but one sure as shit CAN strike a ball and see 0 movement of the cb after contact.
 
Black-Balled said:
I don't understand why there are so often references to 'you can't hit exact center' of the cb?

Perhaps not, if evaluated to a miniscule measure, but one sure as shit CAN strike a ball and see 0 movement of the cb after contact.
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Everytime? Nano hazardly? Pro trick or security blanket? IDK I'm not there.

Damned sure makes sense though.
 
straightline said:
Everytime? Nano hazardly? Pro trick or security blanket? IDK I'm not there.

Damned sure makes sense though.
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Don't have to do it every time.

I can't share an actual%, but there is a margin of error in every shot and I think small deviations from intended strike point aare a non issue.

It isn't like rocket surgery, it is more like building a deck, imo.
 
Black-Balled said:
Don't have to do it every time.

I can't share an actual%, but there is a margin of error in every shot and I think small deviations from intended strike point aare a non issue.

It isn't like rocket surgery, it is more like building a deck, imo.
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Yeah but the operative function is "as Ronnie OS" or CJ or whomever the other advocates of TOSomething Besides are.
 
thenaturalpoolplayer said:
It really is that simple. I have been studying Gorst, Shaw, and Filler. To me they represent the best of pool. Gorst for deliberate technique, Filler for sniper, and Shaw for natural. The secret to playing like these players is to actually look like these players when you are shooting. If you don't have the exact technique they have then you will never be able to shoot like them. We all know club players who have been batting the balls around the pool hall for decades and have not improved an inch. If you approach pool right you will reach novice to pro level in 3 years tops. If its been longer than 3 years then you simply have stopped improving.

My suggestion is forget everything you know. Watch these players and view yourself shooting ie in the window reflection or video and just try to mimick what they are doing. If you forced Gorst, Shaw, and Filler to shoot the exact way you do, then they would be as bad as you...so the opposite is true.
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Good advice. When I was a kid and wanted to start getting better I copied, Johnny, Nick, Buddy, and Sigel. I didn't know "why" they did what they did -- but as I progressed I figured it out. Simply put, everyone can't be a pro. There are limits to talent and ability and drive. That's a hard fact many don't want to believe. However, you can become much better by trying to duplicate what the great players do. It's a lot of fun!
 
straightline said:
Yeah but the operative function is "as Ronnie OS" or CJ or whomever the other advocates of TOSomething Besides are.
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I'm also having trouble understanding your posts today, man!

Suspend center vs spin contact definitions for a moment and consider solely from the perspective a the tip striking a ball:
what is the likelihood one would strike the exact point intended?

It does not matter if it's right or left or up or down or english or Korean, the crucial determinant of accuracy is only how close to the intended point did one strike it?

'a little bit of something' is silly. A little left, a little center., A little hi-draw...shooter has same margin of error for each, as far as strike point goes.
 
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