Traditional wood shafts making comeback?

Yes, a few. KUH 'Fuhjin' and 'Raijin' (one is composed like 314 of multiple wood layers, one is a hollowed solid maple). I had a 'Fuhjin' - it taught me just how much LD is not for me. It led me into my 'can I have a hit with your cue?' phase of testing... like 4138268310437 cues...

there are several other hollowed out or other 'tech' applied wood shafts. They're all a gimmick, like throwing shit at the wall and seeing what sticks...
Thanks for posting that. Good read.
 
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Of course... again though, I wonder how often that extreme pops up.

I know I'm not the player you are, but even I can rip a ball pretty damn hard without things breaking down. I can't imagine a shot I'd play within a game that requires more than I can muster, with accuracy.
not too often but i think it like long term benefits. I don´t miss too many balls. If I can get little edge with just with equipment that would be huge.
let´s assume i make 90 shots from 100. Also assume that that shaft make me avoid 2 of those misses. Then on tournament where i probably shoot 1000 shots my I would miss 20 less balls. those 20 misses probably cost me matches :)
Im also going to get contact lenses. at 48 years of age im blind. Still making them ok even my eyesight very bad now. I think contact lenses help more than shaft and is priority.
There is couple more things that helps too and im working on those. I want to make my last push to get new level of play before im 50 and enter couple big tourneys and do good.
Just a goal to keep me motivated.
 
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not too often but i think it like long term benefits. I don´t miss too many balls. If I can get little edge with just with equipment that would be huge.
let´s assume i make 90 shots from 100. Also assume that that shaft make me avoid 2 of those misses. Then on tournament where i probably shoot 1000 shots my I would miss 20 less balls. those 20 misses probably cost me matches :)
Im also going to get contact lenses. at 48 years of age im blind. Still making them ok even my eyesight very bad now. I think contact lenses help more than shaft and is priority.
There is couple more things that helps too and im working on those. I want to make my last push to get new level of play before im 50 and enter couple big tourneys and do good.
Just a goal to keep me motivated.
This is absurd...pool players can't do math! :unsure: :ROFLMAO:

47 year old contact wearing pool player here. Trust me...get the contacts and thank yourself later. Plus it helps for checking out the ladies (if you're newly single like myself).
 
People love to take the very small differences equipment makes and inflate them out of all proportion.
Realistically, once you're used to carbon or wood, you ball pocketing percentage and speed control are going to change VERY LITTLE.
Two or three percent difference is being generous. Then consider that at higher levels, pool is 95% mental to begin with, that 2 or 3 percent drops to a tiny fraction of a percent.
People that claim a shaft or cue or tip is making their game improve are seeing or imagining those gains not because of the equipment, but because of the psychological effect of switching things up and shifting or increasing their focus.
 
People love to take the very small differences equipment makes and inflate them out of all proportion.
Realistically, once you're used to carbon or wood, you ball pocketing percentage and speed control are going to change VERY LITTLE.
Two or three percent difference is being generous. Then consider that at higher levels, pool is 95% mental to begin with, that 2 or 3 percent drops to a tiny fraction of a percent.
People that claim a shaft or cue or tip is making their game improve are seeing or imagining those gains not because of the equipment, but because of the psychological effect of switching things up and shifting or increasing their focus.
The tip does make a huge difference!
I used to install tips for all the local players. I have experience with many tips, and I can say that it's the only part of the cues that does make a big difference.
All tips are great on day one, but a lot of tips lose their softness and their feel very fast; a lot of tips become dull. This inconsistency will hurt your game more than anything else. I switched to hard tips, as they are the most consistent tips and feel the same for the longest period of time, not to mention that they keep their shape better.

Everything else is negligible.

I wrote a few times already; the biggest advantages to CF shafts are durability, consistency and low maintenance.
The extra power it produces, in my opinion, is a side effect that marketing made into a feature. A good player with a good stroke doesn't need the extra power.
 
If my exchange math holds up, they're approx $375 and $480 apiece. If you check these out be sure to read the reviews!! You'll get a kick out of their terminology.
Bought mine here in China, but I have had an extensive look at their online presence (which like lots of Japanese sites, is quirky, weird and offers some great mistranslation). Their product is top notch. I am sure it makes lots of people pretty happy.
 
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not too often but i think it like long term benefits. I don´t miss too many balls. If I can get little edge with just with equipment that would be huge.
let´s assume i make 90 shots from 100. Also assume that that shaft make me avoid 2 of those misses. Then on tournament where i probably shoot 1000 shots my I would miss 20 less balls. those 20 misses probably cost me matches :)
Im also going to get contact lenses. at 48 years of age im blind. Still making them ok even my eyesight very bad now. I think contact lenses help more than shaft and is priority.
There is couple more things that helps too and im working on those. I want to make my last push to get new level of play before im 50 and enter couple big tourneys and do good.
Just a goal to keep me motivated.
Wish you the all the best my friend.
Good luck w that.
 
The tip does make a huge difference!
I used to install tips for all the local players. I have experience with many tips, and I can say that it's the only part of the cues that does make a big difference.
All tips are great on day one, but a lot of tips lose their softness and their feel very fast; a lot of tips become dull. This inconsistency will hurt your game more than anything else. I switched to hard tips, as they are the most consistent tips and feel the same for the longest period of time, not to mention that they keep their shape better.

Everything else is negligible.

I wrote a few times already; the biggest advantages to CF shafts are durability, consistency and low maintenance.
The extra power it produces, in my opinion, is a side effect that marketing made into a feature. A good player with a good stroke doesn't need the extra power.
Power has been the ruin of many a poor boy.😂
 
A comeback? For me they never left. I know there are many that just LOVE to procure all the latest and greatest gadgets that the industry cranks out, and that’s fine, whatever blows your hair back. For me, I’ve been playing with same equipment for over 35 years, I generally find what I like and stick with it. To each their own.
 
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not too often but i think it like long term benefits. I don´t miss too many balls. If I can get little edge with just with equipment that would be huge.
let´s assume i make 90 shots from 100. Also assume that that shaft make me avoid 2 of those misses. Then on tournament where i probably shoot 1000 shots my I would miss 20 less balls. those 20 misses probably cost me matches :)
Im also going to get contact lenses. at 48 years of age im blind. Still making them ok even my eyesight very bad now. I think contact lenses help more than shaft and is priority.
There is couple more things that helps too and im working on those. I want to make my last push to get new level of play before im 50 and enter couple big tourneys and do good.
Just a goal to keep me motivated.
Nice, and I can completely relate. I jumped into my 50's a couple years ago and my eyes are also going down the shitter. Make most shots based on muscle memory at this point...lol
 
I have nothing against CF but to me it has no life to it, it’s like playing with a Rebar steel shaft. No feel to it. Maybe it’s my playing with wood for over 60 years.
I’ll stick to my wooden shafts w/an Ivory ferrules, they are like old friends that do everything I want them to.
 
I just got back from the pool hall.
Decided to take one of my customs with its original solid wooden shaft, the shaft is amazing, never been used besides some test hits when I got the cue 16 years ago… I also have a 314-2 that was custom fitted to the cue and that was the shaft I mainly used with it.
The shaft was made from a Corey Barnhart blank with an Agis ferrule and a 13.2mm diameter and a long taper and a Kamui Black Hard tip.
Very solid hit, feels great. Nice ping sound that reminds me of ivory ferrule only not as soft.

Later I switched and had the CueTec Cynergy shaft on the same butt.
Also feel great, not dead, very responsive.
I really don’t know what’s the fuss is all about CF has no feel.
And to be honest, I totally preferred the CF feel to the wood feel, maybe I finally got used to CF…
 
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Wood and carbon (and hybrid) just feel different.
Same with wood from different manufacturers.
Same with carbon from different manufacturers.
It's all preference.

I still break out my old SP with a 314 or Z and love the feel, but after a while playing I'm reminded why I switched.
I also think the transition to carbon was easier for those of us using spliced/LD wood shafts before. The change from my Players 1-piece maple to the 314 took me WAY longer to adjust to than the 314 to the Revo.

I do get that a lot of people don't like the look of carbon (I don't on some cues either), but a lot of makers are clearly keeping the black shaft in mind when they design their cues.

Z2 and Z3 have way less deflection than those
I've always thought the Z and 11.8 Revo felt really...pointy? Like the deflection changed based on the bridge length (which makes sense because they're both conical taper). I liked the narrower tip of the Z, but prefer pro taper. The 12.4 Revo is perfect for me.
 
I played LD wood for years, but got the CF itch. After about 2 years I switched back. CF is lighter, so the balance point is different. Also, with a lower weight front end I found myself muscueing more often. I'm happy with my old LD wood shaft.
 
Nice, and I can completely relate. I jumped into my 50's a couple years ago and my eyes are also going down the shitter. Make most shots based on muscle memory at this point...lol
The approximation on those long shots you can't zoom in on anymore.
Seeing 3 balls down table?? Aim for the middle one!!😂 Now that's an aiming system!!😂
 
A comeback? For me they never left. I know there are many that just LOVE to procure all the latest and greatest gadgets that the industry cranks out, and that’s fine, whatever blows your hair back. For me, I’ve been playing with same equipment for over 35 years, I generally find what I like and stick with it. To each their own.
Creature of habit.👍🏻
 
I have nothing against CF but to me it has no life to it, it’s like playing with a Rebar steel shaft. No feel to it. Maybe it’s my playing with wood for over 60 years.
I’ll stick to my wooden shafts w/an Ivory ferrules, they are like old friends that do everything I want them to.
Hard to enjoy or even get used to anything else after having those!!
 
Hello, it’s crazy how things have changed. When I was younger I shot league several times a week and the whole low deflection shafts where all the craze. Fast forward almost 20 years and I decided to get back into league and seems like all I seen was carbon fiber shafts. I have noticed, at least in my area people have started to gravitate back towards traditional maple shafts. Am I the only one seeing this? I do love the hit of an old traditional shaft.
Too many options out there. It’s the shooter not the cue.
 
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