Traveling within the USA with a cue that has ivory

miguelcon74

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Hello,

If I own a cue that has ivory in it, can I travel with it - flying with it within the USA, not out of the USA.

My cues I have that don't have ivory, I have shipped to have repaired by the maker out of state but never one with ivory.

What's the best options here?

I've read forums talking about out of USA but couldn't find any talking about from say Texas to Nebraska, or Colorado to Idaho.
 
Absolutely…..it is clearly spelled out in the regulation…….possession of raw ivory, artifacts or items containing ivory
are absolutely not against the law since all laws enacted in the United States under our Constitution are usually done on a de facto basis. Ex post facto laws are prohibited and a perfect example is the Volstead Act (Prohibition).

Under that law, it was prohibited to manufacture, transport or sell alcoholic beverages. However,the consumption of alcohol legally acquired before the law took effect did not violate the law. All alcoholic beverages purchased before midnight the law took effect was legal to consume after the law took effect. Under rare circumstances can a law be enacted retroactively and the ivory ban is not such a situation either. Anything acquired before July 1, 2016 is yours to keep. Ivory is still legally traded, ex., pool cues, in the vast majority of states. Possession is legal in all 50 states.

Should you travel domestically with your cues? Legally the cues are yours and can never be permanently confiscated. I said permanently…..temporarily is always possible when you deal with people that have authority over you. TSA and CBP agents are just such people and they can have bad day reactions, behave like assholes and be absolutely wrong but nonetheless still ruin your travels, maybe even temporarily seize your cues alleging the ivory was illegal. So if you do travel with your cues, make sure to have documentation corroborating the provenance of your pool cues with ivory. You do not need a CITES document unless your are traveling internationally with your pool cues is my understanding.

Anyway, others will surely be chiming in but what I explained is absolutely true. Possession of ivory acquired legally before the ivory ban was enacted is not a crime. FYI, I could be in Louisiana visiting my daughter or go on vacation to Florida. Either case, I can sell my cues or buy more and bring home the cash or new pool cues and it is totally legal. I bought a inexpensive SP cue just so I never need be concerned about this becoming of potential concern. I don’t require one of my custom cues built to my specs to play good pool. It’s just that I play a little better when I do.
 
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No shit. You wanna go toe-to-toe with a Fed of some sort quoting shit like 'de facto, ipso facto,yada-yada-yada' just to make a point about fkng ivory in a pool cue? Not worth it at all. Ivory is over, move on.
Well, a lot of pool cues are still being made with ivory ferrules which are always popular.
Only a handful of states have enacted any ivory ban pertaining to domestic transactions.
You might not be a fan of ivory; that’s your choice as much as it is for others to prefer it.
 
I started with Micarta on my Schon cue & switched to ivory afterward. I have tried Ivorine, Juma, Elforyn & settled on Juma since ivory is illegal in CA. None of those are equivalent to ivory ferrules but when you can’t use something, then you always use something else. My only issue is the “else” really isn’t as good as ivory, IMO. Obladi Oblada.
 
Your running into that weird territoy, where you run into one a hole TSA agent and life can become hell. I would try to travel without it if all possible. It is legal and yours but you have agents that just don't know any better.
 
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