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couldnthinkof01 said:
Huh? I thought it was the opposite. I've always played with both and they seem about the same.

Edit* Dr. Dave's hardness chart has triangle at 81. Le professional at 78
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i havent used any triangles that were harder than lepros in my time, i didnt test every tip either but the lepros just always felt like a harder strike across the board
 
jayman said:
Nothing beats a good triangle. I use the water drop test to sort them into "Yes" "Maybe" and "Toss it in the trash" It works! When dropped into about four inches of water, If it drops fast and hard, Yes it is a good tip. if it drops pretty darn fast then maybe it's a good tip. If it flops a bit and is slower to fall, I just toss it in the trash. After that, I look for a tight consistent pattern on the glue side and begin the fine tuning from there.It sucks to have to do that since it's a pain in the ass, but you can't beat a "good" Triangle tip. so it is worth the effort.
Based on my personal experience about half a box are in the Yes category and twenty five percent hit the trash. It's a great tip if you get a good one and the lets face it, the price is right. I do very careful prep then use loctite professional super glue. A few thousand and counting not one tip has come off. I used to use epoxy and it worked just fine though much more effort and much slower, I have no reason to do that anymore. I do think prep is the larger part of success.
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Did eventually get a good one. I'm starting to see that if you start to shape the tip and you're seeing a light colored suede like surface, just cut it off and get another tip. Should know that by now, seen it enough times.
 
jayman said:
Nothing beats a good triangle. I use the water drop test to sort them into "Yes" "Maybe" and "Toss it in the trash" It works! When dropped into about four inches of water, If it drops fast and hard, Yes it is a good tip. if it drops pretty darn fast then maybe it's a good tip. If it flops a bit and is slower to fall, I just toss it in the trash. After that, I look for a tight consistent pattern on the glue side and begin the fine tuning from there.It sucks to have to do that since it's a pain in the ass, but you can't beat a "good" Triangle tip. so it is worth the effort.
Based on my personal experience about half a box are in the Yes category and twenty five percent hit the trash. It's a great tip if you get a good one and the lets face it, the price is right. I do very careful prep then use loctite professional super glue. A few thousand and counting not one tip has come off. I used to use epoxy and it worked just fine though much more effort and much slower, I have no reason to do that anymore. I do think prep is the larger part of success.
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There must be a better way of determining if the tip is good than dunking them all and seeing which one floats. It kind of has a tinge of medieval inquisition to it. It also bothers me that only half of them are "good".

Agree though with Loctite being the best of the glues, and prep is key to gluing no matter which one you use.
 
dendweller said:
Did eventually get a good one. I'm starting to see that if you start to shape the tip and you're seeing a light colored suede like surface, just cut it off and get another tip. Should know that by now, seen it enough times.
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This is my way also, you get into it with a file or sand paper. And it's that very light color. and is very soft. Not even worth trying. Try another one.
Most of the time, you can tell before you install it. The darker the better.
 
Das Cue-Boot said:
There must be a better way of determining if the tip is good than dunking them all and seeing which one floats. It kind of has a tinge of medieval inquisition to it. It also bothers me that only half of them are "good".

Agree though with Loctite being the best of the glues, and prep is key to gluing no matter which one you use.
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I have to say, there is a big difference in how they react in water, some sink pretty quickly to the bottom. Others, like most of the bad batch of 10 I had go down a quarter of an inch and come back up and bob around on the top.
 
ShootingArts has a post about how he selects elk masters by weight assuming the size is the same. I ordered a scale from amazon and got a box of 50 14mm triangles.
Went through and got all the tips that were .930 grams or above because that's what one that did well in the water test weighed after it dried.

Just put one on a cue that weighed about .970 which was one of the heaviest in the box. It's a rock, there was no fluff whatsoever shaping it.

So although that particular tip belongs on a break/jump, it seems to be a pretty effective way of determining hardness. I just have to pick out a test shaft and see where the ones I like fall.
 
dendweller said:
ShootingArts has a post about how he selects elk masters by weight assuming the size is the same. I ordered a scale from amazon and got a box of 50 14mm triangles.
Went through and got all the tips that were .930 grams or above because that's what one that did well in the water test weighed after it dried.

Just put one on a cue that weighed about .970 which was one of the heaviest in the box. It's a rock, there was no fluff whatsoever shaping it.

So although that particular tip belongs on a break/jump, it seems to be a pretty effective way of determining hardness. I just have to pick out a test shaft and see where the ones I like fall.
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Not worth the hassle finding a good one. Try a hard and a medium Ultraskin. Not a ton of difference but to me the hard is very close to a Tri. They play great, hold chalk well and last quite a while. Plus the price is un-beatable.
 
garczar said:
Not worth the hassle finding a good one. Try a hard and a medium Ultraskin. Not a ton of difference but to me the hard is very close to a Tri. They play great, hold chalk well and last quite a while. Plus the price is un-beatable.
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on the other hand, I don't mind the hassle
 
I've said this before.
La Pros, new box. (I know were talking about Ultras, but to me leather is leather).
The person than weighs em, interesting.

Turn em all over.
Separate the ones by looking at the flat side.
Those almost look like a flat piece of chocolate, tap the flat surface on the counter.
The better ones have a crisper sound than the more porous ones.
 
Island Drive said:
I've said this before.
La Pros, new box. (I know were talking about Ultras, but to me leather is leather).
The person than weighs em, interesting.

Turn em all over.
Separate the ones by looking at the flat side.
Those almost look like a flat piece of chocolate, tap the flat surface on the counter.
The better ones have a crisper sound than the more porous ones.
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regarding the weight. So far it's panned out, did a .970, .940 and .900. None had any problems with sueding up when shaped but the .940 and .970 were really hard. Maybe I'll try one of the .870s on an old shaft and see if it shapes poorly.
 
Island Drive said:
I've said this before.
La Pros, new box. (I know were talking about Ultras, but to me leather is leather).
The person than weighs em, interesting.

Turn em all over.
Separate the ones by looking at the flat side.
Those almost look like a flat piece of chocolate, tap the flat surface on the counter.
The better ones have a crisper sound than the more porous ones.
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Yes indeed, that's part of the fine tuning.
 
I've been pretty disappointed with the last couple of boxes of Triangle tips I've gotten. Best single layer tips I have right now are 15mm LePros.
 
If I'm gonna continue with bar play, the $20 layer tips are not needed for me, I'll just used my good La Pros.
I've miscued a couple three times/Unexpectedly in the past 6 mths, but in my prime playing years, I almost Never miscued.
I've often been quite surprised when I see a top player.... like Alex P. miscue/Unexpectedly on a shot that did not require extreme cue ball speed or outside cueing/miscue. ''that's a tell''
 
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I just put a Triangle on my Revo. The installer said it’s a medium at 68 hardness. After 3 hours of practice, It feels softer than the medium Precision tips I normally use.
 
jtompilot said:
I just put a Triangle on my Revo. The installer said it’s a medium at 68 hardness. After 3 hours of practice, It feels softer than the medium Precision tips I normally use.
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That is very soft. As long as you don't mind, and can mave cue ball, around nicely. Thats all that matters. One of ways, is to Try drawing the length of the table. If you can do that, with out much effort. I would say you have a nice one.
 
Island Drive said:
Separate the ones by looking at the flat side.
Those almost look like a flat piece of chocolate
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Any opinions on these two?
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