Trying to help a Friend a Marine and a fellow pool player

maha said:
maybe he just wanted money and not a job.
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I delt with Jay before, and he seemed like a really good guy. He gave me a great deal on a helmstetter cue some years ago. I think he is an honest person, so hopefully none of you guys think he made up that story. I sounds like that flooring work is really hard. It could probably take a lot out of a person after 20 years of doing it. Small businesses have it really tough, and I imagine they rarely stay in business for that long (having to compete with the big companies).
 
jayman said:
Just as the title says, My very dear friend is in financial ruins. Like myself he works hand to mouth and has had job after job cancel or decide to postpone their work for a while. At this point he is two months behind on rent and utilities and will soon be homeless. I just left his apartment with a very heavy heart. I plan to help him get some food today, but just me on my own I can't really do a lot. I know things will eventually pick back up but it will be way to late by then. If by any chance anybody can donate a few bucks even if it just helps him have enough to eat for a while it would mean the world to me find some help for his situation. I guarantee %100. of any funds raised will go directly to him!

Thank you to anyone that is willing,
Jay

PayPal; jay.baldwin@comcast.net

Thank you Erwin for getting this off to a good start.
Thank you Amanda.
Thank you William
Thank you Gerard
Thank you Lawrence
Thank you anonymous
Thank you JB
Thank you anonymous
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Hey guys, Jayman acknowledged some folks in the original post (#1) back on the 1/21.
 
Thank you T C, I noticed that as well.
I have dealt with Jay in the past, and he has always been very helpful and honest with me. As far as the offer of employment, I have no answer, that is between them. I personally am surprised at how many people jumped on the accusatory bandwagon before looking at the first post, as also how few actually contributed, (before you attack me, I did. It wasn't much, but I did).
I remember a pool community coming together for a man over a year ago to help someone who had a cue stolen. It was first claimed to be a Balabushka, later disproven, but still, people from this forum from all over the country sent in money, to someone they had never met, to purchase a pool cue. There was no "quid-pro-quo" or whatever, just people coming together to help someone in need.

What happened to those people?
 
measureman said:
Never heard a word or a thanks,but no thanks. whatever.
I withdraw my offer of help.
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Wow, I hadn't bumped this since things began getting better for my dear friend. He had /has jobs on the books but just suffered a few set backs that for a hand to mouth kind of person such as many of us are it was getting to a desperate situation. I did not even tell him I was doing this. I just wanted to get him past a difficult situation so he wouldn't loose his home and business over something temporary.

Since I hadn't received any p.m's I basically thought this post had run its course and left it to rest. to my amazement it turned into an ugly bashing ground. Very classy!!

This is a very hard working man with the finest ethics and is more than happy to work. I am 100% certain if I had told him what I was planning to do, he would have asked not to. As I stated for those of you who are getting your panties in a bunch He has had scheduling issues and a weather related situation that about cost him everything. He keeps his business in good order but at times some things can blindside you and change your world in a heart beat.

I am the person who made the post and I am the person who had not checked back on it for a while.I mostly check for p.m's if something is of real importance as that has always been the way the people here have generally made sure I was aware of something I should know about. If he was even aware of it he would have been on top of any opportunity that had presented it's self, made contact and gone from there. Seriously just how many lazy beggar Marines do any of you actually know? I have never even heard of one. Since things are beginning to work out (thank you guy's) he has been working as much as possible. Oh and I didn't even mention it but his Mom died right in the middle of all this crap and he had to out of state for her funeral. It was a situation where the money some of the good folks here made possible for him to buy the gas to get there.

I truly hope you are all doing well,
Jay
 
jayman said:
Wow, I hadn't bumped this since things began getting better for my dear friend. He had /has jobs on the books but just suffered a few set backs that for a hand to mouth kind of person such as many of us are it was getting to a desperate situation. I did not even tell him I was doing this. I just wanted to get him past a difficult situation so he wouldn't loose his home and business over something temporary.

Since I hadn't received any p.m's I basically thought this post had run its course and left it to rest. to my amazement it turned into an ugly bashing ground. Very classy!!

This is a very hard working man with the finest ethics and is more than happy to work. I am 100% certain if I had told him what I was planning to do, he would have asked not to. As I stated for those of you who are getting your panties in a bunch He has had scheduling issues and a weather related situation that about cost him everything. He keeps his business in good order but at times some things can blindside you and change your world in a heart beat.

I am the person who made the post and I am the person who had not checked back on it for a while.I mostly check for p.m's if something is of real importance as that has always been the way the people here have generally made sure I was aware of something I should know about. If he was even aware of it he would have been on top of any opportunity that had presented it's self, made contact and gone from there. Seriously just how many lazy beggar Marines do any of you actually know? I have never even heard of one. Since things are beginning to work out (thank you guy's) he has been working as much as possible. Oh and I didn't even mention it but his Mom died right in the middle of all this crap and he had to out of state for her funeral. It was a situation where the money some of the good folks here made possible for him to buy the gas to get there.

I truly hope you are all doing well,
Jay
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You sound like a good man Jayman, but I find it rather odd that you were editing your original post to give thanks without actually reading the subsequent posts that were made in the thread. Measureman didn't offer a small donation, he offered a living. Your original post basically stated your friend was having trouble coming by work. I don't think he was criticizing your friend for his lack of thanks. I'm pretty sure he was criticizing you for your lack of thanks.
 
PocketSpeed11 said:
You sound like a good man Jayman, but I find it rather odd that you were editing your original post to give thanks without actually reading the subsequent posts that were made in the thread. Measureman didn't offer a small donation, he offered a living. Your original post basically stated your friend was having trouble coming by work. I don't think he was criticizing your friend for his lack of thanks. I'm pretty sure he was criticizing you for your lack of thanks.
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Thank you, If you will notice that Until today I had not been on this thread since January 16th. Measureman posted on January 19th. It was a kind offer by the way. 99% of the time I have found P.M's are sent for anything of substance along with or without a reply to a thread. My mistake I will readily admit. But all the same I was not aware of the offer and my friend most certainly was not aware either since he has never even been on this website and had nothing to do with my decision to seek some help for him.

He has work, and is finally able to start doing it. But having spent all of his savings doing warranty work that was actually caused by mother nature on a huge outdoor install (torrential rains for weeks on end). he didn't think twice, he just made it right. Then came many UN-expected delays on job after job it got past the point of no return. Living hand to mouth myself I felt terrible. knowing just buying a little time could solve this I looked for any way on earth to help a great guy in a bad situation I did what i could personally and then made the decision to reached out here knowing there are many caring individuals I had to give it a try. It worked! There is still some catching up to do, but he is going to stay in his home and keep his business of 20 years up and running.

Thank all of you,
Jay
 
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sounds like you and him are stand up guys. good to see that. and i am sure he will pay those that sent money back as soon as he gets his jobs done.
 
maha, I sincerely hope you are joking.
Jay has always been honest with me, and he has earned my respect. That is something I do not easily give. With that stated, I do not expect, nor will I accept a refund on any help given. period.
 
"Since I hadn't received any p.m's I basically thought this post had run its course and left it to rest. to my amazement it turned into an ugly bashing ground. Very classy!!"

Jay I don't know you, but if I posted this thread I would've been checking back regularly to see if anyone had anything to offer. And I'm not just busting your balls. I appreciate you helping your friend. If I posted a similar thread for a friend looking for help, I'm not ignoring this thread and just checking my PM's.

A poster here offered work for him, immediately, shame he didn't see or hear about it. Might have turned into a regular gig.
 
Dear God! That's hell of a situation to find yourself in. I hope thing are things going well for you now? I hope your helper didn't suffer or ever even know it happened.
 
Apology

I apologize to you good people for not staying on top of this thread. I was criticized and will admit that I did not do enough to manage my own thread. I have learned a good lesson though. I am sorry you guy's!

JB, I sent you a p.m and mean every word of it.Your kindness was most certainly appreciated. Thank you.

Thank all of you who offered help with this and may god be on your side!

I will consider the thread closed since things are finally looking up. That is the direct result of many hands helping when some just flat needs a bit of relief.

Take care,
Jay
 
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