TX Hold'm Pool Game

[Island Drive]

We all know being around the billiard world.... there is NO game that a good player can ever beat a top pro..... unless maybe a race to 1.
In my travels I happened to be at the Bicycle Club in the Los Angeles area helping with the artistic competition, also ran into Cole Dixon who was playing cards as part of his life.
I became friends with Bob Turner who's been running this card club for decades, a few yrs ago we went out to lunch together.
He mentioned TX Hold'm changed poker forever, he also said it's a game that offers chance.
It's the ONLY game that regular poker players will play with the pros.
They feel/know they have a chance, it's he ONLY poker game that offers this, and most often the only game card players will play in Vegas.
In our pool world, NO games offer this to the average player, where a 600 Fargo could beat a 750, just ain't gonna happen.
Even with the Fargo rated events, they seem to cause this and that with money/game count etc and they are always playing the first day into the second day
Three ball, six ball, nine ball, ten ball, one pocket, straight pool, avg players CANNOT win playing even, when there's a 150 point Fargo Difference.
All I can say is Colorado Hold'm pool game... is called Short Rack 9 Ball, pro rules, 9 on the spot, and the 9 ball is ALWAYS movin' on the break shot.
Recently I held 2 events and a local man won the event, a few weeks later he returned to play a second time.
First match he drew a gal that drove up from Pueblo, she beat him 7-0.
In these events.... all winners/losers start each round at the EXACT same time. Finals dinner time or earlier.
Tell your room owners about this, I'm gettin' ready to promote, I have 2 events this next mth in Denver.

 

[Rocket354]

Might be a fun game, but the motivating premise underlying your argument is false. A typical player can always beat a much stronger player with weight. That's why handicapped tournaments and leagues have gotten so popular.

This is just another attempt at leveling the field, but without (at least yet) the proven track record of existing rating systems, be it Fargo, APA SL, or others.

 

[Rusty in Montana]

I think it sounds like a different and potentially fun game , if it brings in new players to the game that's a good thing in my way of thinking .

 

[garczar]

why not just throw dice? basically what this is. i don't have a problem with luck in regular pool games but this is probably 70% pure luck. if it was in a bar/room where i was a regular maybe but i wouldn't drive a block to play it.

 

[Island Drive]

WPA pro rules, roll out after the break, BIH all fouls.
With this rack structure it's very difficult to make a ball.... wing balls go 6 rails and land in the kitchen.... if you've never played it ones perspective can not be formed, because it looks too easy to an experienced pool player.
Most players looking at a flow chart know when they are going to play an opponent they can't beat or have never beat.
In SR9B, each round, I shuffle player numbers (deck of cards)....You never know who your next opponent will be till I turn the card #s over. and call out table numbers.
Having 5 less balls on the table make ones chances of pocketing a ball diminish.
Until you've played and seen it, it's very difficult to to understand this rack structure, it looks simple, but it's not.
With alternate brake, racker is allowed to move the 9 up/down on the spot area looking for the spot where his opponent doesn't make a ball.
Also, your opponent would NEVER give you a loose rack, if they do.... the wing balls go in the corners.

I want a game that gives a weaker player a great chance at doing better than a good player or being able to get in the cash.

 

[Island Drive]

Might be a fun game, but the motivating premise underlying your argument is false. A typical player can always beat a much stronger player with weight. That's why handicapped tournaments and leagues have gotten so popular.

This is just another attempt at leveling the field, but without (at least yet) the proven track record of existing rating systems, be it Fargo, APA SL, or others.

But TX Hold'm success is because the handicapp is the game itself, one that offers a CHANCE for a non pro to win with out Weight.

 

[Island Drive]

I'll let yah all know how it went after two events in one of thee nicest rooms in the US.
If it doesn't work I'm fine with that, but I've seen pool players behave in the finals, cheering the player who just beat em, never seen that EVER.
The finals becomes a group of 6 winners playing for the entire pot with a breaking and shooting order.... the other 4 players will be sitting and watching and talking to each other if shooter misses/sit down next in order up.
Competitors sitting together doesn't happen in pool, it happens every game at the poker table, poker tables create friends and such. Pool does NOT offer that for the players or the game, it's always me against you.

 

[maha]

in cards it isnt clear who will win and who will lose. the best players win in the long run and have major ups and downs.

not so in pool the better players as said almost always wins each and every match.

and handicaps only make for some of the difference and never give the weaker player much of a chance anyway.

bill i hope whatever you are proposing works out well. as when a not so good player wins his buddies say if he can win so can i and then they sign up and get in.

 

[Nogbert]

We all know being around the billiard world.... there is NO game that a good player can ever beat a top pro..... unless maybe a race to 1.
In my travels I happened to be at the Bicycle Club in the Los Angeles area helping with the artistic competition, also ran into Cole Dixon who was playing cards as part of his life.
I became friends with Bob Turner who's been running this card club for decades, a few yrs ago we went out to lunch together.
He mentioned TX Hold'm changed poker forever, he also said it's a game that offers chance.
It's the ONLY game that regular poker players will play with the pros.
They feel/know they have a chance, it's he ONLY poker game that offers this, and most often the only game card players will play in Vegas.
In our pool world, NO games offer this to the average player, where a 600 Fargo could beat a 750, just ain't gonna happen.
Even with the Fargo rated events, they seem to cause this and that with money/game count etc and they are always playing the first day into the second day
Three ball, six ball, nine ball, ten ball, one pocket, straight pool, avg players CANNOT win playing even, when there's a 150 point Fargo Difference.
All I can say is Colorado Hold'm pool game... is called Short Rack 9 Ball, pro rules, 9 on the spot, and the 9 ball is ALWAYS movin' on the break shot.
Recently I held 2 events and a local man won the event, a few weeks later he returned to play a second time.
First match he drew a gal that drove up from Pueblo, she beat him 7-0.
In these events.... all winners/losers start each round at the EXACT same time. Finals dinner time or earlier.
Tell your room owners about this, I'm gettin' ready to promote, I have 2 events this next mth in Denver.

I'm in Denver, i saw this event in the springs a while back (or somewhere else south of here) and it definitely piqued my interest; seems like a fun concept. I may join at felt. thanks for promoting it here!

 

[Chris]

TX Hold'm … [is] the ONLY game that regular poker players will play with the pros.
They feel/know they have a chance, it's he ONLY poker game that offers this, and most often the only game card players will play in Vegas.

Amateurs may believe they stand a chance against pros, and may even take down the occasional pot, but pros will easily win in the long run.