Jim Wych and Jerry Forsyth pointed out the statistic that Team USA hasn't won a day in over 3 Mosconi Cups. (13 matches at the time)
Harsh truth... :frown:
Harsh truth... :frown:
Ugly Fact-
- Thread starter Chicagoplayer
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There are many truths the USA should now face.
1. USA promoters should cease to call competitions on 7fters as professional
2. Mr. Hearn now seems to be looking further a field for stiffer competition for Europe
Other statics include:
Europe has now one more racks since the the MC began
Europe have now won more matches since the MC began
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The only stat left is USA overall wins, which we all know won't last for long... :thumbup:
Well training
Well the obvious cause for this is organized training. I think you mentioned a skill test they use and then their is likely some equipment differences as in shafts etc. There also might be some perception mentality issues. In our pool gambling might have a large focus. I think you have to look at it all.
Well the obvious cause for this is organized training. I think you mentioned a skill test they use and then their is likely some equipment differences as in shafts etc. There also might be some perception mentality issues. In our pool gambling might have a large focus. I think you have to look at it all.
It's 11-11 with a single draw isn't it?
^^^ :thumbup:
Nothing wrong with BB competitions. The APA have done well out of them. But at no time have they claimed they are running pro events for professional on BB tables...
BB tables are for amateurs no matter how difficult they can be to play on... :thumbup:
John Disque
Banned
*I believe the overall Mosc. Cup match-score is 127-127.
(Did Wych point out that stat?)
*When you have a race to five, alternate-breaks, against some of the best in Europe, you may-as well be having a coin-flipping contest and the format favors the weaker team.
*Everyone is talking about expanding the Mosconi Cup. Make it a race to 13 winner-breaks and you will see who the best players/team REALLY are.
*Shane has entered 10 US Opens and won 5 of them - against the best in the world... Not just against a couple snooker-players.
(Did Wych point out that stat?)
*The pairing of Sky/Justin playing Scotch doubles has never been beat and I seriously doubt that any two players can beat these two in a long race, for the cash.
*Mike Dechaine has won more money gambling than all European players combined.
*I'm not down on the European players - I think they have an incredible amount of "potting skills" but if you use this one cartoon-tournament as your entire gauge to judge the skill-level of all American or European players - it's stupid. -- The Mosconi Cup is exciting but it's nothing but a quick-fix for YouTube junkies.
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That's not the problem.
The Bar Box has nothing to do with the USA team losing. I watch these guys play all over the country and they Never GAMBLE or PRACTICE on Bar Box tables, 95% of their play and practice is on 9 FT tables.
Not one of the players on the team spends any significant amount of time on the BB, so if they struggle during the Mosconi Cup it aint because they haven't had enough time on the Professional tables.
The Bar Box has nothing to do with the USA team losing. I watch these guys play all over the country and they Never GAMBLE or PRACTICE on Bar Box tables, 95% of their play and practice is on 9 FT tables.
Not one of the players on the team spends any significant amount of time on the BB, so if they struggle during the Mosconi Cup it aint because they haven't had enough time on the Professional tables.
Thats a whole lotta excuse in one post:crying::crying::crying::crying: when will it stop?
Jason
John Disque
Banned
They're facts that you refuse to acknowledge so you can believe what you want to believe and if you don't believe them... come out from behind you fictitious screen name and play any one of these American players.
Bring some cash!
No we're filling the screen with stupid?
Facts?:rotflmao::rotflmao::rotflmao:
What ficticious name?
Tell ya what big boy - I'll take team Europe for $10,000 next year
Jason
So am I to believe-
So are we only to believe that our players are strictly good for the cash and not so much so in tournament play versus Europeans in tournament play and for the cash?
By that logic- wouldn't you want to win double, like the Europeans?
So are we only to believe that our players are strictly good for the cash and not so much so in tournament play versus Europeans in tournament play and for the cash?
By that logic- wouldn't you want to win double, like the Europeans?
John Disque
Banned
If my Aunt had balls she'd be my uncle.
:crying::crying::crying::crying::crying::crying::crying::crying::crying:
Jason
The problem is leadership. All of the American players are super capable. Unfortunately the ace on the team is Shane. He excels in singles but can't handle the position of being the top dog on the team. When he started playing the MC he was the young buck. As a leader he just can't do it, and when he plays bad the whole team fizzles.
I'd vote for a team of Sky, Justin Bergman, Justin Hall and two of their contemporaries, all under 30. When Bergman and Hall were partners a few years ago they were great. Bergman is very capable, without an older more accomplished team mate he would be a great leader.
I'd vote for a team of Sky, Justin Bergman, Justin Hall and two of their contemporaries, all under 30. When Bergman and Hall were partners a few years ago they were great. Bergman is very capable, without an older more accomplished team mate he would be a great leader.
Actually I like your thinking here...its too easy at the moment so only a rubbish team could win 7 on the trot including (I think) two very lucky 11-2 and 11-3 wins.
In order to make it a bit harder so only those truly skilled stand a chance I think we should also make the table a bit bigger, I'm thinking 12 ft x 6 ft, use smaller balls, much tighter pockets and maybe introduce a new scoring system.
There...now its all fixed, luck is taken out of it and the unlucky US team should win every year
