You're right, but how you look still affects public opinion.
You probably do the boxer shorts thing anyway to go with your layered tip hypersensitivity
Under Armour making pool pants?
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You're right, but how you look still affects public opinion.
You probably do the boxer shorts thing anyway to go with your layered tip hypersensitivity
They look great... I wrote NIKE about making some shoes for Pool Players, never heard a word from them.
I wear a lot of Dickers trousers, they aren't that expensive. I also wear some Camp Shirts, they are button up style, with small vents on the side. The shirt is worn outside the trousers.
I also believe some Pros could get some mileage out of these sponsors,, say the Mosconi Cup boys. They will be seen by millions of people.
I think it makes sense to dress up "a little bit". Make it somewhat respectable but don't overdo it.
Also, I'm talking about events that require dress codes not the local weekly tournament. Some of the requirements are ridiculous and make the players look like clowns.
They already make shoes for pool players.
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I agree. As Cleary has said in the past, there needs to be some kind of sense in the dress code. But, as an example, if a regional tournament is paying out $50 for just making it into "the money", I'm not so sure it should require anything too formal. Now, if we were talking paying out a couple hundred minimum, then, yeah, put on your Sunday best.
Hmm.. maybe that could be the drawing-line for dress codes - what would the minimum payout buy? If it can only buy a couple of things from Goodwill, that should be what you expect for dressing. Now, if you could get nice slacks, a dress shirt and shoes, then there's your dress code.
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Just because you don't appreciate them doesn't make them hype. The same could be said for nice cues, nice cars, nice watches, a nice meal, good beer/wine/whiskey, etc.
I like clothes. I like nice clothes that are designed with nods towards history in fabrics, features, fit, and construction. I like clothes that are made ethically of quality materials and more often than not made in the US. I like knowing where my clothes come from and I can tell you the city and state of manufacture for the boots, jeans, and shirt I'm wearing today. I like that.
Like it or not, clothes make a statement and say something about you to others. What they say may or may not be true but to ignore that fact doesn't change it. I select what I wear carefully as the outward presentation of myself to the world. You don't have to like it or agree with it, but don't call it hype just because you don't care to understand.
More of a sensitivity to hypocricy *cough look at your cue cough*... I've used non layered triangles for many years. Still my number one choice for people that have no real preference to the type of tip to use. I've installed dozens for free for friends and teammates since I had so many left over. But's that's off topic :grin:
As for clothes, I agree with not dressing down too much. I actually wish the US could adopt a more professional atmosphere in major tournaments like you see in nearly all snooker events.
I will be impressed when UA throws some sponsorship money to some of the bigger tournaments like the US Open or at least sponsors a pool player like SVB. Right now they are just leveraging pool to sell more active pants.
I am being negative, but I am sick of seeing corporate america use pool for their advertising without kicking any back to the pool industry.
I am being negative, but I am sick of seeing corporate america use pool for their advertising without kicking any back to the pool industry.
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It has to start somewhere. More pool in the media should ultimately result in more people playing should ultimately result in corporations taking interest in marketing at events.
Pool isn't really being used in this case. That's like saying that a Levi's commercial where a bunch of people are playing 2-hand touch in the park, is using football for their financial gain.
But you're right, UA will not be throwing any sponsorship toward pool anytime soon. Although, they're probably more likely to than many other athletic companies. UA supports a lot of alternative sports as well as ballet. I'm planning on running Spartan Race and Tough Mudder next year and I've already talked to Brian Russel about printing Focused Apparel logos on my UA gear. We're also seeing a lot of players wearing compression shirts under their polos at pro events. So maybe with a few hints and nudges, UA might get interested.
But you're right, UA will not be throwing any sponsorship toward pool anytime soon. Although, they're probably more likely to than many other athletic companies. UA supports a lot of alternative sports as well as ballet. I'm planning on running Spartan Race and Tough Mudder next year and I've already talked to Brian Russel about printing Focused Apparel logos on my UA gear. We're also seeing a lot of players wearing compression shirts under their polos at pro events. So maybe with a few hints and nudges, UA might get interested.
Why would they? How on earth would UA benefit from sponsoring a player or a tournament? Endorsement deals are gifts or handouts, it's a business relationship where both sides profit and sponsoring a player or a tournament would increase their sales 0%.
I don't even know how to respond to this without being mean. I wonder if people who play chess wonder were their kickback is if they say chess in a Pepsi commercial?
I read those, looks like most are just people complaining that the fit isn't the same as it was previously, or as advertised maybe. These look to have a more up-to-date tapered fit rather than a loose straight leg....one of the reasons they actually look pretty decent.
Why would they? How on earth would UA benefit from sponsoring a player or a tournament? Endorsement deals are gifts or handouts, it's a business relationship where both sides profit and sponsoring a player or a tournament would increase their sales 0%.
I don't even know how to respond to this without being mean. I wonder if people who play chess wonder were their kickback is if they say chess in a Pepsi commercial?
I enjoy chess and play almost daily. The best chess players make a lot of money. I haven't seen anyone whine on a chess board about professional players not making any money or how to make their game more popular.
I think you missed my point. It's ok I didn't expect you to.
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The pants look okay......but certainly not great if these UA pants are really $90.
I'd much rather have a pair of LL Bean chinos......greater color selections that include both tan and khaki colors and a broad variety of sizes including in-betweens (33, & 35" waistlines). The LL Bean line also includes trim styles that have more narrow legs that will appeal to those of us that don't have big waistlines or backsides.
The material fit and quality of LL Bean is unmatched in men's clothing attire as evidenced by their incredible Returns Policy....."The customer is always right. And LL Bean's pants cost a whole lot less than $90 a pair....you choose for yourself.
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The pants look okay......but certainly not great if these UA pants are really $90.
I'd much rather have a pair of LL Bean chinos......greater color selections that include both tan and khaki colors and a broad variety of sizes including in-betweens (33, & 35" waistlines). The LL Bean line also includes trim styles that have more narrow legs that will appeal to those of us that don't have big waistlines or backsides.
The material fit and quality of LL Bean is unmatched in men's clothing attire as evidenced by their incredible Returns Policy....."The customer is always right. And LL Bean's pants cost a whole lot less than $90 a pair....you choose for yourself.
Matt B.
LL Bean is solid for the price if you want a pretty stodgy fit but to say their material and quality are unmatched is just not true. There are tons of better constructed clothes out there, albeit at a higher price point. For the money LL Bean is a solid choice, just like a McDermott cue is a solid choice. Nothing wrong with them, but we're not even talking Schon level yet and certainly not custom level. (and in my analogy McDermott has the advantage of being US made while much of LL Beans products are imports...though thankfully not all).