Underappreciated Cue Makers Section

IIRC, Travis used to be a frequent here at AzB when he started building cues. He had tons of questions to the experienced cuemakers, provided photos of his work and was learning really fast. I think his first customers were here at AzB and many of them were really pleased with his earlier work. I pondered buying/ordering one but never pulled the trigger and now regret it. I don't see many BlackCreek cues in second hand market; a good sign the owners are reluctant to part with their BlackCreeks.
I concur. His cues caught my eye, very quickly.
 
I like to give a shout out for Garten Bierbower,
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a fellow Ohioan. He makes an extremely nice playing cue. He had a stroke some time ago, hope he is doing better. Pics of one he did for me back in 2021-22.
 
I agree it doesnt get any better than BlackCreek cues. I have had one of his cues from around 2010 and i have played a lot with it. I have never experience a clearcoat like his and i have owned about 51 cues. It looks crystal clear and i have hit the butt against doors and chairs and it hasnt had one dent in it in 16 years. Hell i dont even see a scratch. His shafts are super smooth also.
Any idea what he used?
 
I like to give a shout out for Garten Bierbower, View attachment 925910a fellow Ohioan. He makes an extremely nice playing cue. He had a stroke some time ago, hope he is doing better. Pics of one he did for me back in 2021-22.
I really like his cues...classy has that old school vibe. Looks like a RB 6 window.
 
My taste in cues is narrowly defined in the sense I like points, veneers and a little jazz in the butt and forearm.

The cue can have 4 points, 6 points, heck, a picket fence 8 pointer. It is the proportional size of the points, inlays
and veneers color scheme that matters most to me, not the design complexity. The look of the forearm wood,
joint ring, shaft collars, butt design are important considerations that eventually combine into one’s impression.

Here’s a few questions to ponder. Some of the readers have already answered without even reading this. How could
that be? Well,because they’ve already experienced it. I’ve done it four times with Bob and Jerry. Got you curious or
have you already guessed what I’m going to ask? Okay, let’s just put the question of affordability aside for a moment.

If you could have a cue built, how long are you willing to wait for it and what would you ask the cue maker to build?
Is there a favorite cue maker you’d choose and would you consider getting a cue from the secondary resale market
instead of waiting? What is the most important quality you want in the cue maker you would choose to make a cue?

Remember that design complexity is not a consideration. Let’s just say the cue was handsome without being ornate.

I had Bob Owen build 2 cues I designed and Jerry Rauenzahn also did the same thing for me. Having a custom cue
ordered, waiting, tracking the build progress with photo updates from the cue maker and finally receiving the cue is
just a fantastic experience. Unfortunately, there are some cue makers that build great cues but can be unresponsive.
 
My taste in cues is narrowly defined in the sense I like points, veneers and a little jazz in the butt and forearm.

The cue can have 4 points, 6 points, heck, a picket fence 8 pointer. It is the proportional size of the points, inlays
and veneers color scheme that matters most to me, not the design complexity. The look of the forearm wood,
joint ring, shaft collars, butt design are important considerations that eventually combine into one’s impression.

Here’s a few questions to ponder. Some of the readers have already answered without even reading this. How could
that be? Well,because they’ve already experienced it. I’ve done it four times with Bob and Jerry. Got you curious or
have you already guessed what I’m going to ask? Okay, let’s just put the question of affordability aside for a moment.

If you could have a cue built, how long are you willing to wait for it and what would you ask the cue maker to build?
Is there a favorite cue maker you’d choose and would you consider getting a cue from the secondary resale market
instead of waiting? What is the most important quality you want in the cue maker you would choose to make a cue?

Remember that design complexity is not a consideration. Let’s just say the cue was handsome without being ornate.

I had Bob Owen build 2 cues I designed and Jerry Rauenzahn also did the same thing for me. Having a custom cue
ordered, waiting, tracking the build progress with photo updates from the cue maker and finally receiving the cue is
just a fantastic experience. Unfortunately, there are some cue makers that build great cues but can be unresponsive.
I’ve learned a few things working with cue makers, and design complexity matters a quite a bit in choosing a builder. I like to collect cues and play with various types of cues.

I really love the Gulyassy cues I discussed earlier in this thread, but I would have struggled to convey a complex, highly specific design to Mike. Concepting something intricate and iterating through it with him probably would not have been a great fit. I only have good things to say about Mike and his cues, but the process felt a bit old school and required a lot of trust. I mean trust in the sense that details were discussed on the phone and then written down on scribbled and very brief notes. I was comfortable with that because I already knew what I wanted, and the design was straightforward. Delivery and timing was solid: both cues were delivered within about six months. It was a simple transaction, and he made the best playing cue that I own.

I had a very different experience with another maker mentioned in this thread. He was extremely creative with design and layout. It’s a themed cue, and his concept was outstanding — something I would not have come up with myself. He sent digital concepts, we iterated quickly, and for a while there were regular updates and photos. Then, silence. This is a cue that was really fun to watch come together and the process felt very cohesive for a bit. I still think I’ll get the cue eventually, but it’s been about three to four years with no movement.

I’m now in the pre-order stage with another up-and-coming maker from this thread. The wait is a bit longer, but he has a strong reputation for delivering high quality. So far the process feels closer to the Gulyassy experience. It has been really informal. I am struggling to convey a specific design and would prefer the maker to provide more guidance and leadership with design. I have a deposit down and I have decided I will probably just fly there and sit down with him to finalize details.
 
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