Once again thanks for the reply
UNI-LOC joint - the real story
- Thread starter pfd studios
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well said, this DeeDee represents the worst on the forum and the main reason many have just given up and moved on. If it is mine, it is the best & if it is yours and I don't or can't have it then it is the worst. Childish
DeeDeeCues
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You call me childish, pfd calls me hopeless. I've offered reasons why the Vee threads are better. People have responded with problems they have with the uni-loc.
Nobody has offered any argument why the uni-loc or radial are better than vee threads;. I don't care what people buy. I do care that people buy into false claims by marketing machines like predator and mezz.
I never heard anyone claiming Bill Stroud invented the Uni Loc quick release, but back when the Radial pin by Uni Loc came out I did hear many saying Stroud came up with that one.
That's why there's the oh-so-wonderful 'IGNORE' function. Just forget the the guy exists. He should know by know that his pedantic engineering insight really means nothing to 99.999999999999999999999999% of people that play pool. He's probably the only one that cares so much about the perfection of the shaft/butt interface.
JC
Coos Cues
I will give you a tangible reason.
The threads on a radial pin are not as sharp as for instance a 3/8 10 modified pin with 60 degree threads and therefore makes them much tougher and harder to ding if you accidentally bang it into something and easier on your hands. You can actually cut your finger with the threads on a modified pin if you grab it wrong.
I still use 3/8 10 pins but have observed this difference.
DeeDeeCues
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JC
Coos Cues
It also didn't sway me but I did notice it.
Always thought this was interesting.
Did the "total recall" happen after the Uniloc joints became more "famous"? This happens with many people and in many industries. The "Hey I did that first" syndrome
IMO, the popularity of the Uniloc QR and Radial joints went up as the popularity of Predator cues went up. I am guessing this is just going keep happening - Predator seems to be the best selling cue brand.
The Uniloc QR has one of the best fitting metal to metal pin joints I have tried, IMO.
Great job to Paul Costain and Gary Fumarola, and in the unpatented universe, whoever said "Hey I did that first"
DeeDeeCues
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Interesting. The problem I have with a tapered interface is that it is impossible to matter the taper and the face, unless one is compliant.
Also tougher to machine than I think it's necessary.
DeeDeeCues
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We're happy you found the time to post this in light of your busy schedule of not sucking.
You're welcome.
I agree. Engineers are generally ultra-anal types that fret over things that 99.99999 of the population doesn't give a thought to. Not that that's a bad thing 'cause somebody has to sweat the details. Yrs ago D. Kersenbrock was in Tulsa and i was the fly-on-the-wall in a conversation between him, Verl Horn and a couple other midwest builders. The looks on the faces of those guys while David was talking was priceless. I mean he was on a WHOLE different level. Amazing to me that approaches to cuemaking could be so different. Verl was the down-home old school machinist and DK was like a NASA engineer. Wish i'd kept my ivory-loaded Horn. Thing would be worth a stack these days.
DeeDeeCues
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Engineers are not generally 'ultra anal'. We actually tend to be rather scattered and disorganized. We love details and minutia. Our lives are spent anticipating problems, analyzing failures, fixing flaws, and teaching others from those lessons.
We also don't all look at our shoes when we talk. We aren't all nerds who like comics and video games. Most of the engineers I have worked with are very athletic and active people who can also rebuild your engine or recode your CNC.
Well, stop going to Vegas!
Only reason i go to vegas is to play golf. i'm no casino sucker. i think a paid like $400 for that horn. probably worth 4000 now.