ya i was thinking huebler with a worn of markingThe 2nd one looks like a Heubler. Actually, they both do except for the brass insert in the first one's shaft.
Heubler used a tranfer logo on the butt cap and for thier higher end Custom cues. Heubler custom shop was engraved on the bottom of the butt cap where the bumper sits. The finish looks great, to bad who ever did them didn't look around. The logos are available.ya i was thinking huebler with a worn of marking