Up and coming cue makers to invest in???

David in FL said:
^^^ This ^^^

Unless you're deep into 8 figures already, if you're "investing" in pool cues, you need to talk to an investment professional...
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These are TWO of the EXACT answers I was hoping TO FiLTER. Of course, I know this is the answer. Some of us LIKE owning cues AND like to hit with different ones from different makers. I was ASKING PLEASE if anyone has any opinion on "up and comers" in their local neighborhood.

You guys are answering questions that I didn't ask.

John
 
Bavafongoul said:
Do not think of pool cues an investment opportunity. That is a foolhardy, naive approach to investing.
There are just too many variables that interfere and undermine any reliable predictions or any forecast.

I have tens of thousands of dollars spent, not invested, for my limited collection of cues which is but a small
stipend compared to what others have assembled and spent gathering their pool cues. Everything is relative.

Here’s what I know and believe having learned this over many decades of pool experience. If you buy smart &
maintain your cues in great condition, you should not lose money when you are ready to sell or trade the cues.

I have owned and sold over 17 pool cues that culminated in what I now have. If I din’t live in a state that banned
ivory, I’d be flipping my cues and tapping my IRA to get down to only 4 cues but they’d be big names like Hercek.

Over the years, I always got more than I paid for my cues when I sold them. Sometimes it was only a $200 more
for a Schon Ltd but I also made $1400 on a Mottey cue that I used to buy my Prewitt. My point is I never lost $.

I am very confident I can sell my cues for what I paid because I see how much more cue makers are charging in
contrast to 10 years ago which is when I bought my last cue. As long as I don’t lose money, then I’m very pleased.

How many other cue owners have played with their cues for years, decided to sell a cue and didn’t lose a red cent,
not even including the cost of shipping? Just always use a reputable cue maker and build a nice 19 oz. cue design.

You can’t go wrong with 19 ozs and instruct the cue maker the butt should be 15.0 ozs. w/o any weight bolt and the
shafts at least 4.0 ozs. That’s an ideal weight ratio & no weight bolt helps the balance seem more level than tail ended.

Pool cues should not be considered an investment although it is hard to deny some cues are worth many thousands
more today than when the cues were built. And indeed, deceased cue makers cues admittedly receive higher prices.
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I own 40+ cues already. If I were worried about having too much in pool cues, I wouldn't be asking the question. Please stick to the topic! I even specifically clarified the topic because I ALREADY have cues that I like to play with. Was wondering about "lesser known" good cue makers?
 
Buy cues to have fun. Maybe they'll be worth something someday...don't count on it. I have decent collection of production and 3 customs. And a few cases, JJ, JB. If I got top dollar today it would not change my life.
Lesser known makers and the future..... Does anyone have a crystal ball.
 
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thrillsoft said:
I own 40+ cues already. If I were worried about having too much in pool cues, I wouldn't be asking the question. Please stick to the topic! I even specifically clarified the topic because I ALREADY have cues that I like to play with. Was wondering about "lesser known" good cue makers?
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No one for $800. There you go
 
Benelli said:
So I'm weird, I don't like to take photos of makers cues that I'm not buying. It feels like something someone would do to rip off their designs instead of just buying the cue.

Now vintage and used cues I'll snag photos of, but not new stuff.

Here are some pics of that new PK I picked up.

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Very nice!
 
I will agree ... there better investment!! But If you want to invested in new cue makers. The first to come to mind ...is Newsheriffintwn's cue. I have Dieckman, Bollman, BHQ, Dayton,Parrot,and Crown Cues. And now I'm collected Newsheriffintwn for my kids!!
 
billiardshot said:
I will agree ... there better investment!! But If you want to invested in new cue makers. The first to come to mind ...is Newsheriffintwn's cue. I have Dieckman, Bollman, BHQ, Dayton,Parrot,and Crown Cues. And now I'm collected Newsheriffintwn for my kids!!
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Exactly the type of conversation I was trying to get going. Not like I'm going out and buying every one of those cues, BUT I'll keep my eye out and if it's super cheap, might take a stab. That's the discussion. Wasn't looking for IRA investment advice. Just looking for small makers that you know and are starting to get a little attention. Simple conversation. 😊
 
billiardshot said:
I will agree ... there better investment!! But If you want to invested in new cue makers. The first to come to mind ...is Newsheriffintwn's cue. I have Dieckman, Bollman, BHQ, Dayton,Parrot,and Crown Cues. And now I'm collected Newsheriffintwn for my kids!!
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Does Newsherrifintown still make cues? Where to find? Contact info (if still making cues)?
 
thrillsoft said:
Does Newsherrifintown still make cues? Where to find? Contact info (if still making cues)?
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Thrilsoft
Yes Newsheriffintwn, is AZBilliard member, just message him... and Tell him billiardshot/ Bob Watson send you.. I already told him... My Daughter already Won an eight ball ACS tournament with his cue!!!
 
billiardshot said:
Thrilsoft
Yes Newsheriffintwn, is AZBilliard member, just message him... and Tell him billiardshot/ Bob Watson send you.. I already told him... My Daughter already Won an eight ball ACS tournament with his cue!!!
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Thank you! My "playing" cue is a $200 Pechauer (the lower "JP Series", not even the "Pro-series). I've won HUNDREDS of tournaments with that. Although, I own "James White" and "Blud" cues. The one that I win all the tourney's with is a JP series $200 cue. LOL
 
I play with Tiger sneaky with installed leather wrap had it for just over 10 yrs paid $600 CAD for it my last cue ,but i do have a nice Dufferin just under 11mm tip like new condition green leaf i think over 25 yrs old for sure.
 
thrillsoft said:
For people just starting out collecting... what cue makers/brands would you suggest investing in now for UNDER $800 that will only GO UP in value? If people thought of collecting as an investment, or a collection to leave their children/grandchildren 30 years from now... which makers would you suggest will only increase in value?

I think this would be a very interesting conversation. Some cue makers are very talented but only start making cues in their older years and don't have time to build a name for themselves. Other cue makers that are younger may end up "selling out" and mass producing and dilute the market. (or maybe don't win awards that seem to help value).

What makers (under $800) would you predict would be valuable in 20 years? I'm dying to hear the thoughts from so many different experts on here.

PLEASE let's leave out of the discussion "Just buy what hits the way you like". Obviously, those are the ones we play with. I'm talking about INVESTMENT quality that can currently be bought at very reasonable prices. Things you stick in the closet because you feel it's going to be valuable.
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I can say, I already answer ... this question!!! What new cuemakers, is the question???

garczar your are full of bs!! History will tell you that !!​

 
thrillsoft said:
These are TWO of the EXACT answers I was hoping TO FiLTER. Of course, I know this is the answer. Some of us LIKE owning cues AND like to hit with different ones from different makers. I was ASKING PLEASE if anyone has any opinion on "up and comers" in their local neighborhood.

You guys are answering questions that I didn't ask.

John
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Then maybe “investing” is not the right word to use here.

As mentioned before, there are two type of cue makers that might appreciate in value over time:
1. A cue maker that you have top players that swear by his cues, this will create demand and a long waiting list. Those days are over, 99.9% of the top players are using production cues with LD shafts.

2. A cue maker that started working for a big collectible maker - but this is a gamble as you don’t know if they’ll grow to be big names and that their cues will go up in value. And for $800 it’ll have to be a Plane Jane cue. Considering that even a TAD Plane Jane is not worth much more than about $2000, that won’t be a good investment.
 
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In my experience the big three on the West Coast were always Ginacue, Tad and Southwest..........

They all appreciated in value.

Plus, if you needed money they were fairly liquid.

Owned them all and played with them.

Tad and Ginacue had brand and legacy.

Southwest came on very strong and the demand is crazy..........
 
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