Upgraded to an LD shaft - which drills will speed up the transition?

aaronataylor

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I’m four days into playing with a Revo 12.9 shaft. I’m looking for some specific drills to focus on which will shorten the time needed to transition to the new LD shaft.

Any suggestions would be appreciated. Thanks in advance.
 

peppersauce

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Just put in your time and shoot balls.

Might not be the right shaft for you.




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That’s what I was thinking. Maybe play and if any particular shots are giving you problems, set them up and work on those.

If you’re having a lot of problems, it may be useful to find the natural pivot point on your new shaft. Dr Dave has made a couple of videos that go into detail on how to do that.
 
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garczar

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I’m four days into playing with a Revo 12.9 shaft. I’m looking for some specific drills to focus on which will shorten the time needed to transition to the new LD shaft.

Any suggestions would be appreciated. Thanks in advance.
Just play with it. I'd just shoot a lot of inside/outside spin shots to get the feel of where to aim. I played with one for an hour at a tournament and i played good with it from the first shot. Just use it and don't don't overthink this.
 

S.Vaskovskyi

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I’m four days into playing with a Revo 12.9 shaft. I’m looking for some specific drills to focus on which will shorten the time needed to transition to the new LD shaft.

Any suggestions would be appreciated. Thanks in advance.
Who knows better than you what kind of shots you're struggling with after you switched?
When I've tested Revo or Cuetec c.f. shafts I've tried them doing same drills or shots I like to repeat regularly for certain reasons and knowing exactly how certain shots work with my regular shaft I could see the difference in performance of mentioned shafts.

I also know nobody will do my job for me...may be those in Predator for that $$$ could include the instruction for a fast transition to it;)
Sorry, but with so much information you left it is not so easy to help.
 
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Cornerman

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I’m four days into playing with a Revo 12.9 shaft. I’m looking for some specific drills to focus on which will shorten the time needed to transition to the new LD shaft.

Any suggestions would be appreciated. Thanks in advance.

The Aim and Pivot Test
 

Andrew Manning

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Pocketing balls with plenty of sidespin. The vertical axis is not about your shaft, it's about your stroke. Sidespin is where you have to adjust to the shaft, and if you want to do it as quickly as possible I'd suggest you focus on spin shots full-time for a while. Tune your vertical axis game back up once you feel acclimated.
 

garczar

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Pocketing balls with plenty of sidespin. The vertical axis is not about your shaft, it's about your stroke. Sidespin is where you have to adjust to the shaft, and if you want to do it as quickly as possible I'd suggest you focus on spin shots full-time for a while. Tune your vertical axis game back up once you feel acclimated.
Yep. That's what i suggested as well. It won't take long. I test hit a 12.9Revo and was totally comfortable with it in about 20-30 shots. Shooting with spin was pretty easy to tell ya the truth.
 

TexasShooter

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It won’t take long as long as you stick to that shaft. Within a week you won’t know the difference.
 

Matt_24

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Start by shooting LONG shots with different spins (side, follow, stuns, draw). Start with just center ball, and slowly add tips of English. Slowly shorten up the distance between cue ball and object ball, changing the angles, etc. Slowly your brain will naturally adjust.
 

eastcoast_chris

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Medium long, 45 degree cut shots with outside and inside spin.... that's what is affected most imho.

When I first went low deflection, it took me a good two months to really understand how the shaft worked (subconsciously)... but I was coming from a regular shaft, not switching from another LD shaft... which I think would be easier.
 

Andrew Manning

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Yep. That's what i suggested as well. It won't take long. I test hit a 12.9Revo and was totally comfortable with it in about 20-30 shots. Shooting with spin was pretty easy to tell ya the truth.

How difficult the adjustment is depends heavily on what you're already used to playing with; I felt adjusted to my Pechauer Rogue 11.8 in practically zero shots, because I was coming from a Predator Z with a nearly identical diameter and amount of squirt. But hand it to someone who's played for 20 years with a 13mm solid maple shaft, and I wouldn't blame them for missing spin shots for weeks.
 

aaronataylor

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I appreciate all of the suggestions. Thank you!

I knew the transition from a maple shaft to LD would take a while. I understand and am ready to put in the time and effort to learn. I'm also using a glove for the first time, so there are some differences to adjust to.

Spin control has changed for sure. Dr Dave has a Back Hand English/Front Hand English (BHE/FHE) calibration drill which I started working on last night.

With the Revo, a little English goes a long way - maybe 3-4 times as much compared to my maple shaft. I need to remember to start with a little spin before using a lot of spin.

Accurate cue tip placement on the cue ball is even more important now since spin/throw make a larger impact on how the object ball reacts. So far, I'm missing a significant percentage of shots due to this adjustment period.
 
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cue4me

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Pocketing balls with plenty of sidespin. The vertical axis is not about your shaft, it's about your stroke. Sidespin is where you have to adjust to the shaft, and if you want to do it as quickly as possible I'd suggest you focus on spin shots full-time for a while. Tune your vertical axis game back up once you feel acclimated.

I agree. This is what worked for me when I switched from a solid maple to a Predator 314 shaft years ago.
 

BRussell

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I’m four days into playing with a Revo 12.9 shaft. I’m looking for some specific drills to focus on which will shorten the time needed to transition to the new LD shaft.

Any suggestions would be appreciated. Thanks in advance.

Here are a couple of drills that I like that might be good for internalizing the deflection of your cue.

This one requires pocketing the balls in order in their corner pockets and hitting only one rail. Balls are one ball off the rail, and one ball away from each other. Good for getting used to outside english deflection.

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The second one is for inside english. Balls are half an inch off rails. Play balls in rotation in their corner pockets, going 3 rails for position.

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tuffstuff07

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Any drills or suggestions for banking with a low deflection shaft? Have had my z-2 for a little bit now but banks are still so so with it
 

Patrick Johnson

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Any drills or suggestions for banking with a low deflection shaft? Have had my z-2 for a little bit now but banks are still so so with it
There’s no difference unless you’re banking with side spin - then it’s just adjusting your aim to hit the OB where you want to, like any other shot.

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Tennesseejoe

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Try this to experiment and determine deflection. Find your pivot point or at least use the same bridge length.

Put the cue ball on the head line 1/2 inch off the long rail. Now put an object ball a couple inches past the side pocket on the same long rail, also 1/2 inch off the rail. Shoot this several times with stop shot.. This will give you some feeling of shooting straight.

Now do this with left spin stop shot until you consistently make the ball and the cue ball stops and spins in place.. Next try right spin. Then go to left draw...then right draw...right follow...left follow.

This is a great exercise for beginners also.
 
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Andrew Manning

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Try this to experiment and determine deflection. Find your pivot point or at least use the same bridge length.

Put the cue ball on the head line 1/2 inch off the long rail. Now put an object ball a couple inches past the side pocket on the same long rail, also 1/2 inch off the rail. Shoot this several times with stop shot.. This will give you some feeling of shooting straight.

Now do this with left spin stop shot until you consistently make the ball and the cue ball stops and spins in place.. Next try right spin. Then go to left draw...then right draw...right follow...left follow.

This is a great exercise for beginners also.

Good call.
 
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