LastTwo said:This was quoted from your first post. I replied that you must be talking about methamphetamine, because that is the main form of 'uppers' used by pool players who stay up all day and night playing. Now do you see where my impression of you came from?
I was replying to the post about uppers and I made the comment about one of the uppers, meth, that IS used for good outcomes and I gave an example of that. I also posted links that show that millions of people have used them without long-term harm.
People on this board started agreeing with my side, and you changed your stance. You have not repeated what you said from your first post, now you say that what you actually meant from that is just to have knowledge of this drug? You are really starting to confuse me.
Good. Confusion means that you're trying to understand, but still have some muck plugging up the thoughts. AGAIN someone else said I was pushing knowledge and I clarified it in a post after that...reread that post.
Jeff, do you advocate the occasional use of meth, yes or no? My impression was that you say yes, now I don't know what to think because you are constantly changing.
Ah, THE question for you. I do not advocate using meth or NOT using meth. I advocate using one's mind in an honest way to determine one's actions. Moral actions are those that are "good for me;" immoral actions are those that are "bad for me." Any consicous being can chose either one at this moment. Whether or not meth is used is up to the individual, hopefully fully cognizant of the risks and benefits.
.Any "lies" I have used are merely examples and speculations used to make a point, which you obviously missed. Noting the benefits of the occasional use of a hardcore drug like meth, you are copying what addicts do before they become addicted. I've already explained this- they try the drug, they like the drug, and they think they can control it if they use it occasionally, and they like the drug so much they desperatly try to find excuses why using it occasionally is good, such as "I've got to stay up all night and study for this exam.."etc. Every addicts says what you are saying. That is my point, as I said before
That is Monday morning quarterbacking, though. To look at ONLY those hooked on meth, is to miss the whole picture. Sure they lied to themselves and it cost them dearly. It is sad and unnecessary and I feel sorry for them and hate it when they mess with me.
.Everything I have said about the drug is completely accurate and you cannot refute it because you have presented ONE SINGLE SOURCE with ONE SINGLE PERSON'S OPINION that states something different. The rest of the world agrees with me Jeff
I've already refuted your statements several times, so I won't waste my time again. And I don't care if the rest of the world (another lie) agrees with you; that others agree doesn't make it so. That type of argument is not logical.
Jeff Livingston